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Sound & Fury
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06-10-2006, 10:56 PM
Post subject: Cowboys vs. Aggression for your criticism
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: portland OR
Posts: 21
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Ultimate Bet
$NL
Blinds: $0.25./$0.50.
6 players
No particular read on the guy.
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K K
UTG raises to $2, Hero calls, 4 folds.
Flop: 3 T 4 ($4.75, 2 players)
UTG bets $4.75, Hero calls.
Dude probably didn't flop the flush, and in that case, my KK is still ahead. If he did flop the flush, I've probably got a better draw. Can't make this laydown.
Turn: 2 ($14.25, 2 players)
UTG bets $14.25, Hero Calls
Almost folded here - maybe I should have? The bet was so strong I didn't really believe he flopped the flush. He'd raised to 4x BB before the flop, and could easily have JJ, QQ, KK, AA, AK. In that case I'm ahead against everything against the AA, but even if he has it I still probably have my clean outs on the flush draw.
River: 7 ($42.75, 2 players)
UTG bets $10, Hero calls.
Way too weak of a bet here after the $14. Easy call, but can't raise in case he has the Ah.
Results:
Final pot: $62.75
Thoughts? Terrible call on 4th street?
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apunisher
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2006
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reads/stack sizes would be helpful
if you are going to play passively pf to disguise your hand, you should raise the flop/turn.
Personally, i would raise the turn
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Sound & Fury
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: portland OR
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preflop I had $42 and he had $61, so full stacks.
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freechus9
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Full House
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I'd definately reraise preflop. The flop call is OK, but a raise would be better. I fold this turn though. The bet is way too big to justify any call. You need to be sure that you're going to make AT LEAST another 45 dollars (implied odds) on the river if you hit your heart, something that doesn't seem likely at all to me, proven by the actual river play. As played, river call is fine.
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My sig is too much for you to handle.
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
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wow id have pushed that flop, its all in on the river anyhows!
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apunisher
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Flush
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Originally Posted by freechus9
I'd definately reraise preflop. The flop call is OK, but a raise would be better. I fold this turn though. The bet is way too big to justify any call. You need to be sure that you're going to make AT LEAST another 45 dollars (implied odds) on the river if you hit your heart, something that doesn't seem likely at all to me, proven by the actual river play. As played, river call is fine.
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why should he think he is behind?
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Dislexsik
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Full House
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This hand was played way to passive.
Reraise on flop,and push on the river.
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freechus9
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Full House
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Originally Posted by apunisher
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Originally Posted by freechus9
I'd definately reraise preflop. The flop call is OK, but a raise would be better. I fold this turn though. The bet is way too big to justify any call. You need to be sure that you're going to make AT LEAST another 45 dollars (implied odds) on the river if you hit your heart, something that doesn't seem likely at all to me, proven by the actual river play. As played, river call is fine.
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why should he think he is behind? |
Villain keeps on betting and shows strength throughout. I think a made flush is quite possible here. The only hands that can feasibly play like this are made flush, set, JJ+ and AK with the A. All we beat is JJ/QQ and AK if the heart doesn't come. I think OPP has us smoked.
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My sig is too much for you to handle.
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apunisher
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by freechus9
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Originally Posted by apunisher
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Originally Posted by freechus9
I'd definately reraise preflop. The flop call is OK, but a raise would be better. I fold this turn though. The bet is way too big to justify any call. You need to be sure that you're going to make AT LEAST another 45 dollars (implied odds) on the river if you hit your heart, something that doesn't seem likely at all to me, proven by the actual river play. As played, river call is fine.
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why should he think he is behind? |
Villain keeps on betting and shows strength throughout. I think a made flush is quite possible here. The only hands that can feasibly play like this are made flush, set, JJ+ and AK with the A . All we beat is JJ/QQ and AK if the heart doesn't come. I think OPP has us smoked. |
why do you say this, he has no reads on villain, so any hand can play it like that. That being said, i know you meant reasonable range, but given that utg just raised and hero didn't reraise, i think you should add a10, 33,44, 55-1010.
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bantam222
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Straight
Join Date: Dec 2005
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looks like he flopped a middle flush or set and is trying to protect adgaist the high flush draws
i fold the turn...i think you won the hand but rivered it
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badandy519
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Straight
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: mckinney, tx
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
wow id have pushed that flop
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Greedo017
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
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raise... somewhere, anywhere, everywhere
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i betcha that i got something you ain't got, that's called courage, it don't come from no liquor bottle, it ain't scotch
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yorib
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Oak Park, IL
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Push on river. Villian's line screams AA without the A of hearts. If you raise preflop, all the money is going in. If you raise on the flop, all the money is going in, same with turn.
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Lukie
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by Greedo017
raise... somewhere, anywhere, everywhere
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Sound & Fury
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: portland OR
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Villian had :Jh: :Jc: so I won with the higher flush.
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