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Old 05-05-2006, 03:00 PM     Post subject: A couple of hands to review #1 (permalink)  
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Hand 1
I didn't C-Bet the flop because I had been very active at the table recently and decided that, with position I would slow down on the flop with this hand. Should I have bet on the turn though? And I can't imagine a raise/steal attempt on the river with how I played the previous two streets.

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Hero ($56.35)
Button ($50)
SB ($56.75)
BB ($27.05)
UTG ($32.35)
MP1 ($11)
MP2 ($36.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, Q.
1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.75) 3, T, 2 (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($6.75) 5 (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($6.75) 6 (3 players)
BB bets $5, MP2 folds, Hero ????


Hand 2

I REALLY wanted to call this because both players were closer to the fishy side than the solid side of the game.
Can you call this after the SB calls?
Would you have called if he folded?

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CO ($5.70)
Button ($11.25)
SB ($62.05)
Hero ($22.55)
UTG ($7.60)
UTG+1 ($54.45)
MP1 ($62.10)
MP2 ($33.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K.
UTG raises to $7.6, 6 folds, SB calls $7.35, 1 fold.
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Old 05-05-2006, 03:28 PM     Post subject: Re: A couple of hands to review #2 (permalink)  
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I call Hand 1 a lot of the time because I'm a calling station. Can you tell us anything about the big blind in this hand?
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Old 05-05-2006, 03:34 PM #3 (permalink)  
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1. Bet turn with 30% equity in a 3 way pot. As played fold river.

2. Call or push. Probably call.
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Old 05-05-2006, 03:49 PM #4 (permalink)  
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IMO 1. Bet turn with 30% equity in a 3 way pot. As played fold river.
Absolutely. It's ok to bet a turn with big ace unimproved after checking behind a blank flop and getting a blank turn checked to you as well, because often you have the winning hand anyway, and even if you don't you have equity against some weak winning hands.

It does feel tranparent or "the gig is up" ish if you will, but do it anyway.
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Old 05-05-2006, 03:57 PM     Post subject: Re: A couple of hands to review #5 (permalink)  
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I call Hand 1 a lot of the time because I'm a calling station. Can you tell us anything about the big blind in this hand?
He had only been at the table for one orbit, but had already lost two pots when he went to showdown with second pair on both hands. He hadn't played a ton of hands though.
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IMO 1. Bet turn with 30% equity in a 3 way pot. As played fold river.
Absolutely. It's ok to bet a turn with big ace unimproved after checking behind a blank flop and getting a blank turn checked to you as well, because often you have the winning hand anyway, and even if you don't you have equity against some weak winning hands.

It does feel tranparent or "the gig is up" ish if you will, but do it anyway.
Does table image play a role in this? As I mentioned I had been pretty active recently and could be seen as somewhat LAGGY. Is there still enough fold equity with this image?
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 no need for fold equity when you are getting >2:1 on your money with overs and nut draw.
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2. Call or push. Probably call.
I was all set to call the all-in, but when he called it threw me off for a second and in a moment of "tighty whitey" just knew he had A's or K's (he didn't).

If you push how much fold equity do you think we have with the SB? Is a call the correct play because we have position on him?
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If you push how much fold equity do you think we have with the SB? Is a call the correct play because we have position on him?
Probably a lot of FE here but its hard to tell. Call is good, esp with position, but you don't really need position to play AK.
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If you push how much fold equity do you think we have with the SB? Is a call the correct play because we have position on him?
Probably a lot of FE here but its hard to tell. Call is good, esp with position, but you don't really need position to play AK.
good points on both hands - thanks

BTW, I had to chuckle (cry) when this hand finished.

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MP3 ($45.70)
CO ($5.70)
Button ($11.25)
SB ($62.05)
Hero ($22.55)
UTG ($7.60)
UTG+1 ($54.45)
MP1 ($62.10)
MP2 ($33.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K.
UTG raises to $7.6, 6 folds, SB calls $7.35, 1 fold.

Flop: ($15.70) A, Q, 4 (2 players)

Turn: ($15.70) 4 (2 players)

River: ($15.70) 5 (2 players)

Final Pot: $15.70

Results in white below:
SB has Jc 2c (one pair, fours).
UTG has Kd Jd (one pair, fours).
Outcome: UTG wins $15.70.
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Old 05-05-2006, 05:08 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Final Pot: $15.70

Results in white below:
SB has Jc 2c (one pair, fours).
UTG has Kd Jd (one pair, fours).
Outcome: UTG wins $15.70.
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