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Old 04-06-2008, 05:04 PM     Post subject: couple 200NL hands - line check #1 (permalink)  
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hand 1. Slowplay OOP is dangerous, but people really seem scared at these stakes. Any 3bet pre blows most hands out. Opp is 10/9 over a small sample. No real reads though

I have been running fairly standard 18VPIP and a fairly large Att to steal %. Not too out of line postflop though.
I hate my river bet size, but other than that, how is the line. After the hand I was thinking small turn and river bets might be best, don't know though

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CO ($412.35)
Button ($190.45)
Hero ($213.20)
BB ($208)
UTG ($196.80)
UTG+1 ($458.50)
MP1 ($61.35)
MP2 ($202.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $8, 4 folds, Hero calls $7, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($24) 7, 7, Q (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets $18, Hero calls $18, BB folds.

Turn: ($60) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: ($60) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $15, UTG+1 calls $15.

Final Pot: $90

Hand 2. Extraction help. People seem to be donking into me a bit more at 200, but folding to virtually every raise. Opp isn't very good. Seems to be pretty loose passive preflop. No postflop reads

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MP2 ($124.85)
MP3 ($406.65)
CO ($195.45)
Hero ($195)
SB ($209)
BB ($216.80)
UTG ($461.50)
UTG+1 ($61.65)
MP1 ($200)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
6 folds, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($13) , , (2 players)
BB bets $6, [color=#CC3333]Hero...

Do I just assume he has some sort of A that wants to play a big pot, or is he just responding to my high Att to steal?
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Old 04-06-2008, 07:04 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 1) looks fine, assuming you wanted to check raise turn. I don't recommend this line however, FWIW.

2) I assume villain has 2 pair and try to stack him by getting it in as much as possible. Also, there are 26 cards in the deck that we do not want to see on the turn.


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Hand 1-
I like a check raise on turn also. When it checks through I like about $46 on the river.

Hand 2-
Definately raise here everytime and try to get in as much $$$ as possible on the flop. Too many action killers to come.
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 Hand 1 when I call this preflop, I am either check/raising the flop or donking the turn after calling the flop. Check/raising the tun looks way too strong and you most likely only get action from hands that crush you anyway. I would donk the turn $50 here and shove any non-A/Q river because it looks the most bluffy.

Hand 2 I hate these spots a lot because it is often a donk bluffing with nothing trying to "represent" an Ace and he just folds. But just raise to $22 and hope he never folds a pair+straight draw hand.
 
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:21 AM #5 (permalink)  
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thanks, about what I thought.
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Hand 1:
c/ring the turn in the first hand is pretty terrible as it will blow him off too many hands. A flop c/r looks kinda bluffy. Donking the turn will get some distrustful hands to look you up. Bet more on the river please. At least $40.

Hand 2:
Must raise here because there is so much money behind and he won't stack himself off given the size of his flop probe bet.
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:02 PM #7 (permalink)  
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in hand 1, if I donk the turn, can I still bet about 2/3 pot on the river and get called as often, or will I be better going 1/2ish.

FWIW, I was more planning a C/C line on the turn. leading the turn for about 35, river for about 65, or is there more value in a bigger river bet/bigger turn bet?
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