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Old 07-10-2009, 12:24 AM     Post subject: Couple #1 (permalink)  
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 Opp standard trying-to-be-tagg - ive seen him spew horribly. We have history that he likes to call me down, hence the turn is v scary to me.
Standard?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

MP1 ($20.15)
MP2 ($64.80)
MP3 ($28.85)
Hero (CO) ($55.65)
Button ($50)
SB ($43.30)
BB ($38.35)
UTG ($16.70)
UTG+1 ($27.90)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6, 5
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 bets $2.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.50, 4 folds

Flop: ($6.25) 6, 8, 6 (2 players)
MP2 bets $3, Hero raises $8.50, MP2 calls $5.50

Turn: ($23.25) 10 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $12.50, MP2 raises $25.50, Hero calls $13

River: ($74.25) 2 (2 players)
MP2 bets $27.50, Hero calls $19.15 (All-In)

Total pot: $112.55


Opp is 8/5
Zomg turn raise is ugly (i dont think a nit raises even AJ here?)- i expected him to call and for me to bet river and get called again - obv bigger sized bet if Q or K lands

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UTG+1 ($48.80)
MP1 ($10.25)
MP2 ($9.25)
MP3 ($54.90)
CO ($12.20)
Button ($31.90)
SB ($52.70)
Hero (BB) ($56.40)
UTG ($30.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2, 2
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, MP3 bets $2, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.50, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.25) 2, J, A (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP3 bets $3, Hero calls $3, 1 fold

Turn: ($12.25) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, MP3 raises $18, Hero raises $45.40 (All-In), MP3 calls $31.90 (All-In)

River: ($112.05) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $112.05

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I believe when he raises turn if i check to him on river hes betting -only card that could come to scare him does, so i shove hoping he makes a hero call as playing his stats im assuming hes bad and will see this as a bluff (or ZOMG I HAZ TP!!)
hes about 23/11

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saw flop

Hero (CO) ($70.55)
Button ($35)
SB ($51.50)
BB ($78.90)
UTG ($53.75)
MP1 ($71.75)
MP2 ($81.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4, 4
3 folds, Hero bets $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 8, 4, 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB calls $3

Turn: ($10.25) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8, BB raises $16, Hero calls $8

River: ($42.25) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $15, Hero raises $49.55 (All-In), BB calls $42.90 (All-In)

Total pot: $4567.23
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:41 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 1) standard but he has TT
2) so so standard
3) unfortunately for him his 2 pair is no g00t nh


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Old 07-10-2009, 02:31 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1:
Is this a standard call in position pre-flop? This looks like an iso-play from villain, which in fact weakens villain's range and lessens your implied odds. I think preflop fold>3-bet>call in this situation. Flop I don't like your raise sizing, more is better. Turn I dunno, i 3-bet cos you're getting it in on the river regardless. Expect a turn range of A8s/ATs/TJs/67/79s/88/TT+ here

Hand 2:
ok, he's 85 and his mp-open-after-limpers range is likely JJ+/AQs+, right? Unless he's a nit like that who also iso-plays (and there are some) I would like some more reads, and I would also like a bigger turn lead. Does he play AK this strong? We need some info on how he may perceive you as well.

Hand 3:
pre-flop cool. Flop good, but $3.5 or $4 is just as good, maybe beter? Turn, what are you thinking of his range now? This is often a straight, often a strong Ace, often two pair. I flat river unless I'm fairly confident that he's dumb enough to stack without the 3...
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:57 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 1:
Is this a standard call in position pre-flop? This looks like an iso-play from villain, which in fact weakens villain's range and lessens your implied odds. I think preflop fold>3-bet>call in this situation. Flop I don't like your raise sizing, more is better. Turn I dunno, i 3-bet cos you're getting it in on the river regardless. Expect a turn range of A8s/ATs/TJs/67/79s/88/TT+ here

Hand 2:
ok, he's 85 and his mp-open-after-limpers range is likely JJ+/AQs+, right? Unless he's a nit like that who also iso-plays (and there are some) I would like some more reads, and I would also like a bigger turn lead. Does he play AK this strong? We need some info on how he may perceive you as well.

Hand 3:
pre-flop cool. Flop good, but $3.5 or $4 is just as good, maybe beter? Turn, what are you thinking of his range now? This is often a straight, often a strong Ace, often two pair. I flat river unless I'm fairly confident that he's dumb enough to stack without the 3...
odd in hand 3 - my read is set or two pair - possibly an AK hand trying to float - hence why i shove as he should know i never have a 3 here and snap call his whole range - he did, with 88 obv

Hand 1 is one of those where im calling with black cards and folding red ones - also having played poorly for 6 months but now turning it round and having played 1/2 2/4 previously i expect to take this type of hand away a lot from a Taggy player iso-raising a lot
I dont raise so much on the flop as my hand range is nuts/nothing so i want him to make the mistake of calling me too much or not calling enough when i bet the turn - hence bet sizing. At 50nl/100nl you can raise these flops all day IMO and fire a medium sized turn bet and force Taggs to fold mediocre hands like mid sized PPs etc (drew was right he sucked out on me on the turn)
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hand 1: either fold or shove on the turn
hand 2:c/r on the turn? your line is OK vs aggressive players
hand 3:i got all my money in before the river
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