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Old 01-01-2008, 06:27 AM     Post subject: common situation #1 (permalink)  
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so whenever i get a big pair like JJ+, i always raise preflop and definitely any underflop. maybe even a flop with only one over to my pair. anyways, not my question. obv i want to deny odds to play to draw me out. so when the entire board is all unders to my pair, by the river, the pot is a bit larger than i want it to be. big pots are for big hands. and at 5NL overpairs seem to be good *most* of the time. however this probably won't always be the case as i move up in limits, as i see many struggling with AA hands. so i'm curious how i could play these types of hands better (keep the pot smaller) yet still maintain control of the hand? for instance:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($10.84)
SB ($6.41)
BB ($8.09)
Hero ($8)
MP1 ($2.83)
MP2 ($4.08)
CO ($8.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J. MP2 posts a blind of $0.07.
Hero raises to $0.25, 1 fold, MP2 (poster) calls $0.20, CO calls $0.25, 3 folds.

Flop: ($0.84) T, 7, 4 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.7, MP2 folds, CO calls $0.70.

Turn: ($2.24) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, CO calls $2.

River: ($6.24) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: $6.24

i was intending on c/c the river depending on his bet size.
i'm sure this post is probably pretty broad but...
also comments on hand even though i think i played it well.

btw i folded QQ preflop twice tonight. i would have been up against both KK AND AA both times! that is so sick.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:32 AM     Post subject: Re: common situation #2 (permalink)  
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I would value-town the river because I don't take calls from posters very seriously.

Sometimes I check the flop, but it can put you into difficult spots unless you know your player. Monkey checked to, monkey bet is something I've been playing with a lot but it's playing with fire.

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btw i folded QQ preflop twice tonight. i would have been up against both KK AND AA both times! that is so sick.
Not so hard, so many people are so passive and predicatable when our mind is calm. So many players have a 3-bet range something like QQ+/AK.
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Old 01-01-2008, 09:48 AM #3 (permalink)  
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