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mike2405

03-19-2007, 11:41 AM Post subject: Comment on these please

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Hand 1
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($8.50)
Button ($48)
SB ($48.75)
BB ($23.18)
UTG ($71.50)
Hero ($49.25)
MP1 ($49.50)
MP2 ($12.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K

, A

. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG raises to $1.5, Hero raises to $4.5, 6 folds, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($9.75) 6

, 2

, J

(2 players)
UTG bets $1.5, Hero calls $1.50.

Turn: ($12.75) 7

(2 players)
UTG bets $2, Hero raises to $8, UTG calls $6.

River: ($28.75) 7

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $22, UTG calls $22.

Final Pot: $72.75

Results in white below:
UTG has Qh Jc (two pair, jacks and sevens).
Hero has Kh Ac (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: UTG wins $72.75.

Hand 2
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($34.25)
UTG ($9.25)
UTG+1 ($49.40)
MP1 ($71.35)
MP2 ($26.16)
MP3 ($25.20)
CO ($18.80)
Hero ($48.50)
SB ($93.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A

, Q

. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, MP1 calls $2.

Flop: ($6.75) 9

, 6

, J

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $4, MP1 calls $4.

Turn: ($14.75) 8

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $8, MP1 calls $8.

River: ($30.75) 4

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $30.75

Results in white below:
MP1 has As 6c (one pair, sixes).
Hero has Ad Qd (high card, ace).
Outcome: MP1 wins $30.75.

Hand 3
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($163.01)
SB ($36.05)
BB ($10)
UTG ($40.60)
UTG+1 ($0)
MP1 ($52.80)
MP2 ($25.35)
MP3 ($13)
Hero ($47.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

, J

. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $2.25, 1 fold, MP2 calls $2.

Flop: ($8) A

, Q

, 3

(4 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5, MP2 folds.

Turn: ($18) 9

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB calls $35.80 (All-In), Hero calls $16.55.

River: ($82.35) 5

(3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $82.35

Results in white below:
SB has Qc Ad (two pair, aces and queens).
UTG+1 doesn't show.
Hero has Ac Jc (one pair, aces).
Outcome: SB wins $75.10. Hero wins $7.25.

Was the call on the turn correct seeing as I'd just hit nut flush draw or was it still a fold even though I put him on AQ after his c/r?

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Muzzard

03-19-2007, 12:54 PM

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Hand 1

Yeah, good reraise preflop. Now on the flop you need to reraise this to represent JJ+. Villain is obv awful.
On the river I think you should check behind as the he called the turn raise and he isnt going to lay this down.

Hand 2

Bet more on the turn like $10 and bet the river too - $20. My read would be he was on the flush draw, but as you've put he had A6. Do you have a bad image or are you on a table of donks? PPL seem to call you with crap

Hand 3
I don't think you have a tight enough read to put him on AQ alone. You could have just checked behind on the turn getting a free card for the flush. As played yes you have to call the turn as your getting 4:1

mike2405

03-19-2007, 03:54 PM

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Posts: 61

1: Yeah, should have raised the flop, but tried to make up for it by representing the flush on the turn. Ovbiously didn't work.

2: Honestly don't remeber how I was playing on the table, it was a few days ago. Agree I should have bet more on turn. Don't think I had any stats on him at the time, but after the flop and turn I was pretty convinced he had a J of some sorts and just didn't feel I would be able to get him of it. Was suprised when he turned over A6.

3: Yeah, maybe should have taken the free card and see what happened. He probably would have led out on the river and I would have probably called, but would have lost a lot less than I actually did.

Thanks for your comments

Any others?

mixchange

03-19-2007, 05:09 PM

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Maybe it's just me, but I don't do big bluffs online at 50NL. With so many calling stations, if I can't bluff someone out by the Turn, there's no way I'm firing a third big river bullet. Plus, I don't find bluffs to be very profitable in the long run. Some work, but I find plenty of situations to get my money in more favorably.

Hand 1 turn bluff is not bad, but if calls it I'm not firing the third...he's probably calling.

Hand 2 I take the free card on the turn.

Hand #3 just sucks and I probably puke and call his turn push I probably only lead for 1/2 pot on turn

Vi-Zer0Skill

03-19-2007, 09:03 PM

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Hand 1: just like PokerMuzz said

Hand 2: just like Mixchange said

Hand 3: Before you decide to bet the turn, you need to try to assign villain a range of hands that he could be holding (remember, it is not always about the absolute strength of your hand).

I would guess after villains c/c on the flop(plus the fact he didn't reraise PF), he is probably holding:

A-x: 60%
A-Q: 10%
3-3: 10%
A-3: 10%
Some junky hand he may be planning to bluff with: 10%

You are slightly ahead of his range, but consider how he would play each of these hands on the turn.

With a weak ace (not two pair) i would expect him to lead out. Since he neglected to do so i would guess it is less likely he is holding a weak ace.

With a two pair/set hand he is probably looking to c/r the turn or c/c and bet big on the river. He might sometimes lead out but i think it is more likely he would be looking to c/r in this spot.

Basically taking a free card is best not simply because you are drawing to a flush. It is best because hands that you beat will probably fold to a second bet, and hands that beat you will be looking to make a big raise... forcing you to decide if you want to play a big pot with just TPGK.

bair

03-20-2007, 03:39 PM

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hand 1: please raise the flop
hand 2: dont bet like a pussy
hand 3: call all day

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