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Rockymv

06-24-2006, 06:38 AM Post subject: Combo draw facing action

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Villian was 20/5 I think. What line do you take here? I reraised, figuring sometimes he folds, occasionally he has AT, and the rest of the time, when he presumably has an overpair or set, I'm not that far behind.

***** Hand History for Game 4581641917 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, June 24, 03:21:02 ET 2006
Table Table 95799 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: Serend1p1ty ( $125.21 )
Seat 6: sajwp111 ( $110.31 )
Seat 5: JaredTaskin ( $128.75 )
Seat 4: Torian211 ( $207.21 )
Seat 10: kwoksun2000 ( $152.05 )
Seat 8: GoTribe55 ( $11.42 )
Seat 2: BottledFly ( $97.50 )
Seat 9: I_KrAcK_AA ( $20.85 )
Seat 1: Bucs2002 ( $125.95 )
Seat 7: MJ23aa ( $49 )
kwoksun2000 posts small blind [$0.50].
Bucs2002 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JaredTaskin [ Qc Kc ]
BottledFly calls [$1].
Serend1p1ty folds.
Torian211 folds.
JaredTaskin raises [$4].
sajwp111 folds.
MJ23aa folds.
GoTribe55 folds.
I_KrAcK_AA folds.
>You have options at Table 96159 Table!.
>You have options at Table 106843 Table!.
kwoksun2000 calls [$3.50].
Bucs2002 folds.
BottledFly calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, Tc, 9s ]
kwoksun2000 checks.
BottledFly checks.
JaredTaskin bets [$8].
>You have options at Irish Luck Table!.
kwoksun2000 raises [$20].
BottledFly folds.
>You have options at Table 96315 Table!.
JaredTaskin ?????

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Genitruc

06-24-2006, 07:39 AM

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If this is shorthanded I def push ppl remember how aggressively you play your draws at sh tables.

full ring if u think he s a donk not gonna fold tp then i like smooth call he prob won t believe the flush or j, k and q could be dead often w limp-call line giving him 2 pair. If he s good playa def push becuz you won t get paid off when u hit.

Lukie

06-24-2006, 12:41 PM

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I like pushing sets and big draws in this spot.

All-in.

krimson

06-24-2006, 02:39 PM

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After hero matches villain's bet there is $50 in the pot and $100 left behind. I think the risk/reward ration of pushing doesn't look that appetizing. Since hero has position I'd smooth-call, leaving villain with a tricky decision on the turn.

andy-akb

06-24-2006, 04:24 PM

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Villain is TAGG, 20/5, and seems to lean more to the tight side.

What hands would he limp/call with in EP? Axs, SCs, PPs, maybe a broadway hand like AJo, KJ, or QJ.

What hands does he checkraise with on that flop? Maybe Axc, sets or overpairs. Id be surprised to see air here that often. A push is a huge overbet here and is really going to narrow the hands that call. Is villain somebody that could fold an overpair to an overbet push? Most likely you are going to be getting called by sets and maybe an overpair, and I dont think it will be all overpairs either, most likely he would fold something like JJ or maybe QQ, if not KK or AA. Against that range we are about 60:40 and I dunno if our folding equity makes it profitable, I think given the stack sizes it is doubtful.

I think taking all of that into consideration I would call the raise on the flop and try for a checkraise AI on the turn if any of my draws hit. The stack sizes are best for that IMO and if your draw hits you are way ahead of your opponents range unless you make a flush and he has the nut flush.

Genitruc

06-24-2006, 04:33 PM

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if he's tight will u get paid off?

if you won't get paid off r u getting odds to call for 1 more card?

i think the answer is a close no (especially on 2nd question where your odds are2-1 and u r worse than 3-1 to hit).

So if villain is tightie he's getting the best when u smooth calling/push turn u like. potential for check-raise makes it interesting (implied odds-wise) but if he's tight won't he try for cheap showdown if scare-card hits?

krimson

06-24-2006, 05:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Genitruc

I think the answer is a close no (especially on 2nd question where your odds are2-1 and you are worse than 3-1 to hit).

$12 to call with $40 in the pot is better than 3-1 odds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genitruc

potential for check-raise makes it interesting (implied odds-wise) but if he's tight won't he try for cheap showdown if scare-card hits?

Hero has position.

Rockymv

06-24-2006, 05:32 PM

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For clarity:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($125.95)
UTG ($97.50)
UTG+1 ($125.21)
UTG+2 ($207.21)
Hero ($128.75)
MP2 ($110.31)
MP3 ($49)
CO ($11.42)
Button ($20.85)
SB ($152.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q

, K

. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 4 folds, SB (poster) calls $3.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($13) 6

, T

, 9

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $8, SB raises to $20, UTG folds, Hero ?????,

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