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Old 04-14-2005, 08:51 PM     Post subject: Check behind? #1 (permalink)  
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Edit: SB had been very slow to get involved in any pots. I had pegged him as a very tight/passive player who would fold fairly readily.

Game #564263013: Texas Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1) - 2005/04/14 - 20:13:13 (GMT)
Table "Affirmed" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: Neo_dk ($113.44 in chips)
Seat 2: looter ($96.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Barok ($51.68 in chips)
Seat 4: Devilish- ($74.50 in chips)
Seat 5: aalpine ($23.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Gladius ($99.99 in chips)
Seat 7: BravesAtl ($117 in chips)
Seat 8: JB146 ($78 in chips)
Seat 9: Myth_Dark ($19.25 in chips)
Seat 10: MPetes21 ($72.75 in chips)
BravesAtl: posts small blind $0.50
JB146: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to JB146 [6s 6c]
Myth_Dark: folds
MPetes21: folds
Neo_dk: folds
looter: folds
Barok: folds
Devilish-: folds
aalpine: folds
Gladius: folds
BravesAtl: calls $0.50
JB146: checks
----- FLOP ----- [7c Js 6h]
BravesAtl: bets $2
JB146: raises to $10
BravesAtl: calls $8
----- TURN ----- [7c Js 6h][Ts]
BravesAtl: checks
JB146: bets $12
BravesAtl: calls $12
----- RIVER ----- [7c Js 6h Ts][Kh]
BravesAtl: checks
JB146: to act
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:01 PM #2 (permalink)  
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bet the pot or push all in


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Old 04-14-2005, 09:03 PM #3 (permalink)  
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What do you put him on that's calling all that way? He had been extremely uninvolved in most pots up to this point.
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:04 PM #4 (permalink)  
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AK or missed his flush,

I really doubt hes got 89


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Old 04-14-2005, 09:07 PM #5 (permalink)  
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89 isn't likely, since as I said, he's a tight passive. I was more worried about JJ and 77 at this point, given that read. No reason to be in your opinion?
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:32 PM #6 (permalink)  
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AJ, QQ, KK, AA is he's really tight. You don't think he would reraise with JJ?
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:33 PM #7 (permalink)  
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AJ, QQ, KK, AA is he's really tight. You don't think he would reraise with JJ?
If i have a big hand in the sb and its folded to me Ill limp in as well...


You have a set, pay off a bigger set, or get payed off.

simple reasoning


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Old 04-14-2005, 09:40 PM #8 (permalink)  
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AJ, QQ, KK, AA is he's really tight. You don't think he would reraise with JJ?
If i have a big hand in the sb and its folded to me Ill limp in as well...

You have a set, pay off a bigger set, or get payed off.

simple reasoning
I mean reraise the flop or the turn. And maybe bet out on the river.

If he's ultra-passive, who knows?
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Old 04-14-2005, 11:46 PM #9 (permalink)  
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The action screams AJ or KJ or QQ or even, but unlikely, AA to me. Like previous posters, I think with a set or a straight, he would have check raised the turn. Many weak/tights also think TPTK is the nuts. I would bet as much as you think he would call on the river. As well as being weak/tight, have you seen him make any really tricky plays? The last check is Chanesque with the 89 or a higher set, because he has to know that you're solid and likely to check behind a lot of the time, but also that you are pot committed enough to call a substantial bet. I'm super-curious to hear the results.
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:01 AM #10 (permalink)  
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 bet the pot on the turn. just hope he has like aa/kk/qq or something. river is tricky, i think you're 50/50 here... if you had potted the turn i'd like a check behind a lot more.
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:13 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Looks like AJ or you are really fizzuked here. The board looks s(ary at the 3nd, but he would have check raised alreaady with an 89 IMO, also the same thing with a set.

The board looks scary, but wth would he call your bet on the flop with? Probability is a ha|\|d like AJ or KJs. His subsequent checks to your flop checkraise look like weakness here, bet the river for information, you're prbly ahead or facing a humongo||) check raise.
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If your set is busted and you didn't lose a lot of money, you probably misplayed your hand...

I bet that river every time.
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:28 PM #13 (permalink)  
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well, I don't know what I'd do here to be perfectly honest, but having read this, I am intrigued to know what u DID do and what happened after u did it!!
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Old 04-15-2005, 01:01 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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If your set is busted and you didn't lose a lot of money, you probably misplayed your hand...

I bet that river every time.
I knew my reasoning was good..


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Old 04-15-2005, 01:13 PM #15 (permalink)  
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 If this guy really is a tight player, what hand would he call a bet with that doesn't beat 66? He doesn't have AK, is AJ really calling here? Maybe KJ. Other than that if he calls you're beat.

OK... re read the 'weak' tight part, maybe he calls 1/3 PS bet with AJ QQ KK AA. Still I don't hate the check... I'm betting a lot more on the turn.
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Old 04-15-2005, 03:08 PM #16 (permalink)  
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I did check. He did have AJ. Part of me felt I lost out on a large amount of profit here, and part of me felt (as drmc mentioned) that the only hands he'd call with on that river (aside from possibly KJ) had me beat.

The consensus I'm getting is that my biggest mistake was not potting the turn, with checking the river being a mistake as well, but not as much of one.
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Old 04-16-2005, 04:47 AM #17 (permalink)  
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I'm confused...

Why [in the fucking hell] check?

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Old 04-16-2005, 06:02 AM #18 (permalink)  
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Given my read, I was worried about what he'd have that would smooth call my raises AND would call another bet on the river.

A mistake I hope to avoid repeating (especially after having been properly chatised for it).
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