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Got Me Wrong
Old 06-02-2006, 08:49 PM     Post subject: can/should i call this? #1 (permalink)  

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Not too much of a read on SB only sown down 2 hands, but seemed to try and bluff in similar situations.

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MP2 ($3.75)
MP3 ($15.25)
CO ($16.45)
Button ($56.10)
SB ($31.80)
Hero ($32.50)
UTG ($31.85)
UTG+1 ($9.50)
MP1 ($9.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, 6.
6 folds, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.75) 3, 4, 5 (3 players)
SB bets $0.55, Hero raises to $2, Button folds, SB calls $1.45.

Turn: ($4.75) T (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($12.75) Q (2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $20.75

After the hand he told me what he had i'll post that later.

On this next hand how much do I raise with multi-action is this good?

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UTG+1 ($19.65)
MP1 ($13.50)
MP2 ($25)
MP3 ($25.85)
CO ($39.15)
Hero ($34.05)
SB ($58)
BB ($31.05)
UTG ($7.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: $7.35
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Old 06-02-2006, 08:58 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 I would fold on the turn, you now have second pair and are behind any pocket pair except for 22. You have 2 outs to a set, but I dont think Id count them as full outs because it puts 4 to a straight on the board. You also have 4 outs to a straight, but it isnt the nut straight. So you really dont have many clean outs and on the turn you need to call essentially a PSB, Id fold here, and definitely fold the river as played.

Hand 2 is a situation I need a little work on, but I think raising somewhere between $4 and $5 is "standard," definitely not too much.
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 1 - SB compelted and there was no raise preflop which makes putting a range on him simple impossible here; without reads. I would probably just dump the turn..

2 - I think 20x bb preflop is a bit too much to raise with AA. Unless I had a read that the table calls very loose preflop (which could be the case in 25nl) I wouldn't go so high. You are basically shouting your hand out. You do want action with it. $3.5 - $4 is probably as high as I would go.

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Old 06-03-2006, 06:10 AM #4 (permalink)  

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ok so in this first hand the read i had on the SB wasn't great but i was pretty sure i was ahead after the flop and turn the river bet was really the only time i thought he had a hand and even then it took me a while to lay this down. Against most players you are right and i would fold this on the turn but i still did not think had anything. When he bet the river i finally decided he must have something to if he is leading the turn after a re-raise on the flop and then leading the river i wouldn't expext a bluff to make this bet. He ended up sayin he had Kd 6d. I just find it really hard to call off bluffs, any advice on that i would really appreciate, thanks.
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Hand 1:Fold turn.

Hand 2:Make it $4 to go.
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ok so in this first hand the read i had on the SB wasn't great but i was pretty sure i was ahead after the flop and turn the river bet was really the only time i thought he had a hand and even then it took me a while to lay this down. Against most players you are right and i would fold this on the turn but i still did not think had anything. When he bet the river i finally decided he must have something to if he is leading the turn after a re-raise on the flop and then leading the river i wouldn't expext a bluff to make this bet. He ended up sayin he had Kd 6d. I just find it really hard to call off bluffs, any advice on that i would really appreciate, thanks.
At this level I would focus more on betting your made hands rather than calling off bluffs.

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