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convictkeeper
Old 09-17-2007, 07:09 PM     Post subject: Can I fold this? #1 (permalink)  
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The villain is new to the table and I have no reads. I have been given a ton of respect from the others, but this guy is new (maybe 5 hands). Did I complety "F" this up or is this another coller in a long line of coolers lately? I don't know how I lay the hand doen, but honestly I am getting these all the time, players hitting 2 outs and crushing my spirit to play. Anyway, enough whinning. What do you do here?

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Old 09-17-2007, 07:12 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:50 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Can you fold? Yes pretty easily.

Look at the context of the hand. On the flop he's out of position and check calls on a board with no draws whatsoever. Is he chasing? Narrow is range to 22, Jx, overpair or underpair 99 or below.

On the turn same thing (check/call) when you bet even bigger. What can he have here to play like that?
22 is out he was just counterfietted, Jx, overpair, underpair Most likely is a J since AA KK would have most likely re-raised you preflop.

The only hands you are in good shape against is an underpair like 99 or below but when he shoves the river you can let it go.

I will give you the fact that it is 5 handed kind of makes the hand harder because folks routinely over-play any pair especially middle pair's like 77-99 and you are in great shape against those hands but only those hands. But the fact that he finally wakes up and shoves on the river when he check/called both prior streets is a BIG sign that you are in bad shape.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:59 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I'd probably check behind the turn and look to put in one bet on the river unless the opp is a complete clown. I think you get more value out of lower PPs this way and you lose less to a jack. Also, I think your flop and turn bets are a little on the large side on this dry board.
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