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Old 10-15-2008, 01:37 AM     Post subject: call their river bets in these trivial hands ? #1 (permalink)  
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Just ignore my pot control line on the flop.

hand 1: villain had donkish stats over 30 hands.
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Hero (UTG) ($100)
UTG+1 ($96.20)
MP1 ($99)
MP2 ($59)
CO ($97.35)
Button ($103.15)
SB ($22)
BB ($102.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K
Hero raises to $4, UTG+1 calls $4, 5 folds, BB calls $3

Flop: ($12.50) A, 10, 3 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($20.50) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $6, Hero calls $6

River: ($32.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $10, Hero ?

hand 2: villain is a 16/8/3 regular over 1800 hands.
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BB ($98.15)
UTG ($23.50)
Hero (MP1) ($100)
MP2 ($100)
CO ($100)
Button ($100)
SB ($99)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J, A
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($9) A, 5, 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($9) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $7, Hero calls $7

River: ($23) A (2 players)
SB bets $18, [i]Hero ?

hand 3: villain has donkish stats over 20 hands.

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UTG+1 ($102.15)
MP1 ($74.90)
MP2 ($98.50)
Hero (MP3) ($98.50)
CO ($111.65)
Button ($98.60)
SB ($100)
BB ($23)
UTG ($40.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, 4
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 3 folds, BB calls $4, MP1 calls $4

Flop: ($15.50) A, 9, 8 (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($15.50) Q (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets $2, Hero calls $2, 1 fold

River: ($19.50) J (2 players)
MP1 bets $10, Hero ?
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:53 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 I bet all of these flops.
i like c-bets. You obviously don't.

it's difficult to comment on the river spots, cos i would rarely (if ever) end up in these situations
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 10-15-2008, 03:27 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I bet all of these flops.
i like c-bets. You obviously don't.

it's difficult to comment on the river spots, cos i would rarely (if ever) end up in these situations
i normally make more money this way from snapping off bluffs. The drawback is that you dont know where you stand at on these tricky rivers when opponents show some strength vs your medicre hands.
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Old 10-15-2008, 04:42 AM #4 (permalink)  
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from snapping off bluffs. .
bet flop, check turn, check-snap river does the same thing
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 10-15-2008, 05:32 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Yah pokerfan I've taken a lot of similar lines to yours and I NEVER find I like them, because I get myself into a lot of tough spots.

Hands 1 and 2 are close.
There are lots of reasons for the donk to bet the way he did, most of them beat you but he's giving you a great price. Meh.
Hand 2 I think he's usually good. He's not calling preflop with many hands that should be semibluffing on the turn, and his bets look like they're for value, even though he knows you're tight. Ughhh, but the way you played underreps your hand and you do have a tight/foldy image IMO so he could be trying to push you off so you might want to fold, but jesus dude, lead somewhere.

I'm snapfolding hand 3.
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:29 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 if you don't cbet then c/f flop.
Hand 2, close. If he's really straightforward then fold, if he's tricky then call.
Hand 3 snapfold
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:39 PM #7 (permalink)  
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hand 1: id probs just check fold, or c bet/give up if called, i wouldnt check call down.

hand 2: I dont mind checking back this flop, seems fine to me, Im calling both his turn and river bets.

hand 3: Also agree on not c betting this flop, calling the turn is fine but rivers an ez fold.
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