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drdeutsch
Old 11-20-2005, 06:03 PM     Post subject: Call this push or lay it down? #1 (permalink)  
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I have 120 hands on the Villain and Pokertracker says he's a fish, with a VP$IP of over 40. Should I have called this push?

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UTG ($1.40)
UTG+1 ($1.42)
Hero ($5.27)
MP2 =Villain 2 ($1.93)
CO ($2.96)
Button ($3.49)
SB ($5.37)
BB ($2.23)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J, J.
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.12, MP2 =Villain 2 calls $0.12, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.10.

Flop: ($0.39) 3, 2, 5 (3 players)
UTG bets $0.16, Hero calls $0.16, Villain 2 raises to $1.81, UTG calls $1.12 (All-In), Hero calls $1.65.

Turn: ($5.29) 5 (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($5.29) T (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $5.29
Main Pot: $4.23, between UTG, Hero and Villain 2. > Pot won by UTG ($4.23).
Pot 2: $1.06, between Hero and Villain 2. > Pot won by Hero ($1.06).

Results in white below:
UTG has 3h 3d (full house, threes full of fives).
Hero has Jc Js (two pair, jacks and fives).
Villain 2 has 8h 8d (two pair, eights and fives).
Outcome: UTG wins $4.23. Hero wins $1.06.
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Old 11-20-2005, 09:03 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Just knowing how often someone sees the flop doesn't indicate how they will play post-flop. He could be a nutcamper and only push with an overpair/set here, or he could be a maniac (unlikely, fish are usually passive).
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Old 11-20-2005, 09:08 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't over-call here.
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Old 11-20-2005, 09:27 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't over-call here.
Overcall? You mean call the .16 from UTG, but fold to the raise from the Villain?
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:01 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Im dont think i would call that first bet on the flop unless i had seen UTG bet with nothing (or 88) [Edit: i will usually give someone the benifit of the doubt once and then watch more closely and see what they showdown before i risk my stack on this]. When Villain 2 comes over the top after i have already called once and then UTG calls it in done with the hand.
2 people all-in even at this level usually means that a single pair (even if it is Jacks) is no good.
As for why i fold i actually am not sure what UTG has but Villain2 i put on a possible set (or something that beats JJ) and fold.

Turns out i got them the wrong way around but i still think folding is right here even at 5NL.
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Old 11-21-2005, 04:46 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Consider the hands that the flop hit. Nobody is pushing here with a paired 2,3,or 5. So they either have a pair of jacks beat or they have a flush draw. I could put one person on a flush draw but not both. You are sunk.
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