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ninconvert
Old 05-04-2007, 05:02 PM     Post subject: Call or fold, very tough decision for me... #1 (permalink)  
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This is the big stack at the table I end up against, he is more than twice the max buyin and I read him as a good opponent...

Was the fold at the end all wrong? Could he have been playing a sophistacted bluff?

What did I do wrong and right here (if anything)?

Full Tilt Poker Game #2349993953: Table Williamsport - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:54:50 ET - 2007/05/04
Seat 1: WAL-Tea ($24.05)
Seat 3: Devilpoker78 ($3.80)
Seat 4: Grabitandrun ($6.35)
Seat 6: ninconvert ($10.45)
Seat 7: Nickska ($3.90)
Seat 9: bawles ($8.55)
ninconvert posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ninconvert [8s 4s]
Nickska folds
bawles calls $0.10
WAL-Tea calls $0.10
Devilpoker78 folds
Grabitandrun folds
ninconvert checks
*** FLOP *** [6s Qh As]
ninconvert has 15 seconds left to act
ninconvert bets $0.25
bawles folds
WAL-Tea calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [6s Qh As] [6d]
ninconvert bets $0.45
WAL-Tea calls $0.45
*** RIVER *** [6s Qh As 6d] [9s]
ninconvert has 15 seconds left to act
ninconvert bets $0.90
WAL-Tea raises to $23.25, and is all in
ninconvert has 15 seconds left to act
yz450man sits down
yz450man adds $2
tigger5481 sits down
ninconvert folds
Uncalled bet of $22.35 returned to WAL-Tea
WAL-Tea mucks
WAL-Tea wins the pot ($3.15)
tigger5481 adds $4
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.50 | Rake $0.35
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Marv1105
Old 05-04-2007, 09:03 PM #2 (permalink)  

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For one considering his over push on the river my guess is he was bluffing at the flush which you had. The biggest problem you have is playing in such a low limit table you get too much of a mixed breed of donkeys to really get much of a read on their hand considering ever two cards dealt are viewed as being playable hands. You fold was probably correct given the number of hand he could have played that would have beat you i.e. A6 s or os, Q6s which you will see a lot of in low limit games. His error which strongly indicates a weak player to me is his over bet, if he has the hand he made nothing additional if he is bluffing he is risking too much with nothing. When playing lower limit games such as you are in, I play tight and very agressively bet my big hands, limp with small pairs (most of the time) and take great advantage of having and taking position preflop if possible. If you are confident in your play I would strongly encourage you to move up to a .50/1.00 game or at least .25/.50. Stay away from the limits of less than .25/50 anything less you may as well play with you free chips as the quality of play if about the same.

Hope this is of some benefit to you. Good Luck
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ninconvert
Old 05-05-2007, 01:10 AM #3 (permalink)  
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ninconvert
Hey, thanks for your reply

I know it's low limits but there are some decent players there as well as the donks. I don't consider myself a bad player and I play there for now just to learn the game and stay within my bankroll (I am steadily making money will move up when I hit $200).

I agree with what you're saying the massive overbet seems like a stupid play if you have the flush because you want to get value but from his perspective my bets are fairly weak. He can either make a bet of $2 or so for value OR push the whole stack hoping I was on a flush draw too and I call.

The right play might not be as obvious as it seems because I was very close to calling, if I don't have the flush I won't call a very big raise when it has just hit to two calls. therefore from his perspective in the long run a push might be the right move to maximise value against a weaker flush.

If I had the flush and the pot was quite small I might sometimes actually push to try to represent the bluff for maximum value?

Thoughts?
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