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Old 11-27-2006, 03:17 AM     Post subject: call or fold #1 (permalink)  
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villian is 40/0 with a w$sd of 56%
a bit of a calling station with middle plair and inside straight draws

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UTG ($50.70)
UTG+1 ($41.25)
MP1 ($25.10)
MP2 ($93.25)
Hero ($70.35)
CO ($50.85)
Button ($38.80)
SB ($50.25)
BB ($53.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 3, 3.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Button raises to $2, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.50, MP1 calls $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50.

Flop: ($12.75) T, 3, 2 (6 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets $9.5, MP2 calls $9.50, Hero calls $9.50, CO folds, Button folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($41.25) 6 (3 players)
MP1 bets $13.6 (All-In), MP2 calls $13.60, Hero raises to $38.5, MP2 raises to $81.75, Hero calls ?

would you ever fold here cause I see the only cards that beat me are TT and 45, I also figure he could have an over pair and honestly he can probably have it cause he never pfr and can slow play a hand. I saw him once lay into someone with a nut straight. with over $100 bucks in the pot I gotta call, right?
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Old 11-27-2006, 03:19 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 I call, i find it odd that he called the turn and then decided to raise you. You do beat 22, 32, AT, and any sort of combo draw or fd.
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Old 11-27-2006, 03:35 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Well you can't fold now.

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Old 11-27-2006, 04:23 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 I raise the flop slightly to get the half-buy all in, and then I get the rest in on the turn against the calling station.

I'm not folding on the turn, though that is a really weird and scary line from him. I'd spike the case 3 on the river just in case..

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 super mega ultra easy raise on flop

you are almost always behind on the turn
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super mega ultra easy raise on flop

you are almost always behind on the turn
The question isn't "am I behind" it's "what am I behind to?". IMO he's behind to 45 and not TT so this should be an easy call given pot odds alone. He has to call $20.35 to win $151.85. Super easy call.

Disclaimer: My math may be off by .35 for all you nits.
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 I bump it up preflop and raise the flop most of the time.
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 I don't like raising preflop with a calling station in the hand. Chances are we'll get the chips in postflop anyway if we hit, so there's no need to build the pot. We have very little fold equity, and almost no showdown value unimproved, so I set it or forget it here.

Deinitely raise flop, though.

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Old 11-28-2006, 11:10 PM #11 (permalink)  
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i chose not to raise flop cause I wanted to keep the calling station big stack in the hand for another round and hope that shorter stack will continue his aggression if not the pot is so bloated it would be easy to get the rest of my chips in on the turn and river.

unless my mistake was providing odds for a drawing hand.
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