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Old 07-06-2006, 11:29 PM     Post subject: Busted draw line-check #1 (permalink)  
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I feel dumb when I lose hands like these. Is the turn raise ok, trying to build the pot with a draw? Is the river bet stupid? In retrospect I feel like I should bet it harder or not at all.

Villain is very tight, 11/2/2.5 over about 100 hands, but I don't have any specific reads. My image is probably slightly laggy.

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SB ($47.75)
BB ($97.25)
UTG ($23.25)
UTG+1 ($64.73)
Hero ($52.55)
MP2 ($64.43)
MP3 ($23.55)
CO ($65.54)
Button ($17)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T, 9. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 5, 3, J (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($2.50) 8 (5 players)
SB bets $1, BB folds, Hero raises to $3.5, MP2 folds, CO folds, SB calls $2.50.

River: ($9.50) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5.

Final Pot: $19.50
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Old 07-06-2006, 11:56 PM #2 (permalink)  
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this doesn't seem like a good time to try to build the pot, because there isnt much there to win to begin with, i don't mind the raise as a semibluff to try to take the pot on the river, but i would have probably raised to 4, and then bet at least 2/3 pot on river, thats if i wanted to semibluff.

I probably would have just called his turn minbet, as ur draw isnt that strong and theres not much to win
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Old 07-07-2006, 12:27 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 fold or play it like this
just dont pick the table calling station :P
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:38 AM #4 (permalink)  
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6 outs to the nuts
2 outs to a strong hand
chance to steal the pot
assloads of money behind in position

I think this is a routine call.

I don't like the turn raise because a re-raise would really suck and we still can take this away from him on the river if we miss. Particularly with an aggro image.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:52 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 If I'm betting this river I'm betting a lot more rather than giving villian 3:1 to make a call.

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Old 07-07-2006, 07:56 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 I know the pot isn't as big, but if you river steal it has to be more like this.. and against the right opp that can fold...

POKERSTARS GAME #5299530340: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/06/19 - 10:16:47 (ET)
Table 'Maja' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Vic3Roy ($133.75 in chips)
Seat 2: givememyleg ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 3: bakakid ($70.10 in chips)
Seat 4: yanina111 ($25.25 in chips)
Seat 5: ZeeRaX ($60.60 in chips)
Seat 6: shark1324 ($21.45 in chips)
Seat 7: striddan ($19.50 in chips)
Seat 8: blesed4 ($52.50 in chips)
Seat 9: BRAINSNBRAWN ($8.85 in chips)
yanina111: posts small blind $0.25
ZeeRaX: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to givememyleg [8h 9h]
shark1324: folds
striddan: folds
blesed4: raises $1.50 to $2
BRAINSNBRAWN: folds
Vic3Roy: folds
givememyleg: calls $2
bakakid: folds
yanina111: folds
ZeeRaX: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ts Jh 6d]
blesed4: checks
givememyleg: bets $3
blesed4: raises $3 to $6
givememyleg: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Ts Jh 6d] [3h]
blesed4: bets $8
Vic3Roy is sitting out
givememyleg: calls $8
*** RIVER *** [Ts Jh 6d 3h] [Jd]
blesed4: checks
givememyleg: bets $33.25 and is all-in
blesed4 said, "kk"
blesed4: folds
givememyleg collected $31.20 from pot

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