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10-21-2005, 06:28 PM Post subject: Building a Pot or Bad Play?

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I want to hear your opinion on whether I played this well or not.

NL100 blinds 0.50/1.00

UTG has been aggressive preflop but has shown down nothing but good hands. UTG+1 is a calling station, his stack has been up and down quite a bit over the last forty hands or so. I am the BADASS MOFO (Hero) sitting on the button.

Dealt to Hero

UTG raises to $3, UTG +1 calls $3, MP calls $3, Button (Hero) calls $3, SB folds, BB calls $3. Pot = $15

Flop :Ah:

UTG raises $6, UTG+1 calls $6, MP calls $6, Button (Hero) calls $6, BB folds. Pot = $39

Turn

UTG raises $20, UTG+1 calls $20, MP folds, Button (Hero) raises to $50, UTG calls $50, MP calls $50. Pot = $189

River

UTG checks, UTG +1 Checks, Button (Hero) is all-in for $41, UTG calls $41, UTG+1 calls $41.

Total Pot = $312

I figured one guy was drawing to the flush (or possibly both, taking away outs from each other), and one guy had AK and was pushing it hard. I figured if somebody had a higher set here they would have let me know. I thought my three five's were good here the entire way, so I played them in a way to get as much into the pot as I could. I was not afraid of a 7 or a 2 being in someone's hand to complete a straight.

Did I play this hand wrong? Should I have pushed harder on the flop? The turn? Should I have pushed on the river (like I did)?

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PokerPatNEU

10-21-2005, 07:04 PM

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I think with two callers behind UTGs bet, it's safe to raise this flop and build the pot a little so that you can take it down on the turn if it comes blank or fills you up. I think i probably just call the turn because it could have completed someones draw, there are enough passive calls in the hand pre flop and on the flop that this 4 could have screwed you.

On the river i think you are hosed. I don't think any hand besides a strait is calling this bet, and i don't think any hand worse than a strait is beating you here, so it's check/fold or check/call a small bet...the pot is big and you don't have much left, but your fold equity against a better hand is pretty much zero at this point.

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10-21-2005, 07:09 PM

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I raise this flop every time. Anyone with 2 diamonds or 87 is getting the right price to draw here. The pot is $33 when the action gets to you. I would probably raise it to $20-25. Then if you get several calls and no scare card hits, you can push on the turn.

STIdrivr

10-21-2005, 07:33 PM

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What are the blinds at? i think i would raise on the flop with 3 people calling the $6 and 2 connecting suited cards, i would raise so someone with an ace will call but other draws will fold. With almost everyone calling the small raise ,78s is not too unlikely,i would

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10-21-2005, 07:48 PM

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I get my money in on the flop too. Not sure about the river, I'm tempted to check that one behind...

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10-21-2005, 11:00 PM

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I went about this hand a little differently than I normally would. I was last to act so I had the advantage of knowing what everyone else was doing. I put the preflop raiser on AK and figured that everyone else was either on a 1) flush draw, or 2) straight draw. I knew that if one of these hit I could possibly be in trouble....but I'd be able to tell by the betting patterns whether I was or not.

On the turn the flush didn't hit. When the original raiser bet again (and bigger this time), it confirmed (at least to me) that he had AK. When UTG+1 cold called him I put him on a flush draw (if he had hit his straight he would have raised, I'd assume, because he too would become fearful of the flush draw).

I raised on the turn only to $50 because I still felt that I was way ahead in the hand. Technically I gave great odds to whoever was on a flush draw...but I was willing to not raise very hard in hopes of keeping them in the hand. When they both called, it confirmed that I was a) ahead of both players at this point, and b) both were either drawing and/or drawing dead.

When the river hit and it wasn't a diamond I really wasn't scared of much, so I didn't check behind. I felt for sure that UTG had AK, and UTG+1 missed his draw. Thinking back now, knowing what I put my opponents on I should have punched it on the turn to get maximum value out of this hand...but it ended up working out well anyway.

UTG checks, UTG +1 Checks, Button (Hero) is all-in for $41, UTG calls $41, UTG+1 calls $41.

Total Pot = $312

UTG shows :Ad: :Kd: pair of aces
UTG+1 shows :Ks: :Qc: high card ace OMG WTF?!?!?
Hero shows:

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Hero wins $312 from the main pot

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