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lowBoy
Old 05-26-2005, 01:06 AM     Post subject: Bottom two pair on a scary board #1 (permalink)  
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Villain had a VP$IP of 46%, and an agression factor of 3.3, according to PT. I'd seen him push a few of people off of scary flops, but didn't see cards. Was at the table for around 30 hands when this happened.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

Hero ($17.25)
BB ($28.45)
UTG ($38.15)
UTG+1 ($44.95)
MP1 ($30.15)
MP2 ($25.75)
MP3 ($38.2)
CO ($20.17)
Button ($5.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, T. Hero posts a blind of $0.1.
UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) T, A, Q (5 players)
Hero bets $0.5, BB folds, UTG raises to $1.75, CO calls $19.92 (All-In), Hero calls $16.50 (All-In), UTG folds.

Turn: ($39.67) 7 (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($39.67) 4 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $39.67

Results in white below:
Hero has Qc Th (two pair, queens and tens).
MP1 has (two pair, queens and tens).
CO has Td As (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: CO wins $39.67.
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ender555
Old 05-26-2005, 01:26 AM #2 (permalink)  
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i have such bad luck with bottom pair, either you are already beat or they might hit there kicker or the board pair's for you to loose anyways. I would fold to his AI
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dsaxton
Old 05-26-2005, 01:37 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I flopped two pair in a home game once from the small blind with 2-4 of diamonds with a flop of 2, 4, 9. I bet, my roommate raised, and the button reraised and I ended up folding expecting at least one player to have a better two pair or set with all the action. My roommate ended up having 9-6 or some trash, and the guy who reraised had 8-8. I also would've made a full house on the river.
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lowBoy
Old 05-26-2005, 03:06 AM #4 (permalink)  
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The only reason I ended up calling is because of his agression in previous pots. He'd also dropped a buy-in on a marginal all-in steal attempt.
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FishMagician
Old 05-26-2005, 01:54 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I think you have to fold because you've seen a raise and a re-raise and you're beat by too many hands. Against one player you might be ahead of ak, but against two one of them almost definitely has you beat.
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lowBoy
Old 05-26-2005, 07:15 PM #6 (permalink)  
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If the first person hadn't raised me, that would make it more likely that my hand has a chance... but there are a lot of things that beat me, you're right.

From the villian, I didn't put him on a spiked PP or AQ due to his preflop raise percentage (around 15% IFRC). KJ is entirely possible, but played like he didn't want anyone else in the pot. Other than that, AT is the only thing that has me.

The other person could have had any of those, though.

Lesson learned... lay down that damned 2-pair.
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