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Old 06-11-2006, 02:14 PM     Post subject: Bottom set... felt like an easy laydown? #1 (permalink)  
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I'm sitting on button with 44.

UTG raises to 6, 4 callers, I call, blinds call.

Flop: 764 rainbow

Blinds check, UTG bets 10, UTG+1 raises to 40, folded to me, I call, SB (villain) raises to 140, folded to me, I muck.

Villain is fairly LAGGY but nothing terribly out of line.

What do you guys think?
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Old 06-11-2006, 03:42 PM #2 (permalink)  
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tough hand, i probably lay it down in the same spot and try not to worry about it.

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Old 06-11-2006, 04:38 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 It's an 8 way pot. Almost $50 goes in preflop. eff stacks are $250 and a laggy SB check/raises when I have bottom set. I'm thrilled to go all-in here.

Also, raise the flop the first time it's on you. The board could get really nasty on the turn.
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Old 06-12-2006, 02:50 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I put the guy who raised to 40 on an overpair... 99-TT. I thought it was going to be heads up with me and him, which is why I flat-called. SB showed me a 53o straight when I folded. I personally thought I was up against 66-77, so it didn't take me long to think about it. What else could SB be raising to 140 with? I just don't see anything that I beat raising here.
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If I was in that hand in a live game where I had been at the table for 30min +, I would have written up the hand with at least twice as much information.

Online taught me how to play cards pretty well. Live is all about the other guys.
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Commerce 9/18

Table is playing kinda tightish for the stakes/establishment. There is one really terrible old man on his second rack with a wallet full of Franklins. He plays over half his hands, takes them way too far and thinks trips are the nuts on the river. Another loose and kinda weird mix of passive/aggressive joined the table and is on fustration tilt after showing down a bunch of pretty good second best hands. Everyone else has a clue how to play the game with various levels of competence.

My table image is TAggy pre-flop and weak post-flop. Have been making some tight laydowns off reads and been on a 1 rack+ heater to come out ahead for the night having just shown down 2 sets. Prior to that I was cutting my losses on a cold run of cards.

Tilty open limps from MP.

I raise Ten heart Ten spade from the Button.

SB calls

BB thinks about folding, but tosses in 3 chips. He's not acting, I'm pretty sure he's weak and taking a flop.

SB & BB are friends at some level. I recognise BB as a regular, kinda-TAggy player. He probably doesn't remember me. Reads hands well. Already seen him laydown what certainly was an over-pair for a 4rth bet on the flop tonight. SB tries to play well, but isn't as good. However, SB has been very tight opening pots.

Tilty calls

4 to the flop $72 in the pot minus $3 for the rake and $1 for the jackpot.

4 heart 5 heart K club

SB bets, BB calls, Tilty folds, I call planning to raise a non-heart turn unless BB beats me into the pot.

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Young Asian guy buys in for a Franklin and a couple Jacksons, then immediatly posts. He's here to GAMB00L, W00T, W00T!!!

Old man limps UTG+1. Newcommer checks, Tilty Raises, folded to me and I 3-bet K heart K spade out of the Small Blind. Big Blind turbo-mucks, Old man refuses to fold, Newcommer still wants to gamble, tilty just calls.

4 to the flop, $117 in the pot minus the drop.

Flop is 9 heart 8 diamond 7 heart. I nearly vommit and check intending to raise any bet....

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love the way you detailed the situation. Indifferent about the play, b/c I'm not a limit guy. Based soley on intuition however, a call seems like the best play... for whatever that's worth.
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I put the guy who raised to 40 on an overpair... 99-TT. I thought it was going to be heads up with me and him, which is why I flat-called. SB showed me a 53o straight when I folded. I personally thought I was up against 66-77, so it didn't take me long to think about it. What else could SB be raising to 140 with? I just don't see anything that I beat raising here.
I can see you ahead of various overpair/2 pair/combo draw type hands, with varying degrees of probability.

Also, we're not overly concerned about being up against a straight. Both because of unlikelyhood (he'd have to have exactly 53 or 58), and because we have decent equity against one on the flop.
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I put the guy who raised to 40 on an overpair... 99-TT. I thought it was going to be heads up with me and him, which is why I flat-called. SB showed me a 53o straight when I folded. I personally thought I was up against 66-77, so it didn't take me long to think about it. What else could SB be raising to 140 with? I just don't see anything that I beat raising here.
I can see you ahead of various overpair/2 pair/combo draw type hands, with varying degrees of probability.

Also, we're not overly concerned about being up against a straight. Both because of unlikelyhood (he'd have to have exactly 53 or 58), and because we have decent equity against one on the flop.
I suppose I beat 67 here, I really didn't think they'd play an overpair like this. Combo draws? The board was rainbow, although I suppose there are hands like 75/65 that COULD be played like this? I suppose this was just a personal read when SHE threw out her bet of 140, she threw it out really strong. I didn't think I was up against a straight, but I did think I was drawing to quads to win.

I'll take your advice Fnord. I could have told you guys a lot more about the table and the players, but I suppose I was so used to posting online HH's where only PT stats really mattered.
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