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r8ed
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09-14-2005, 08:43 PM
Post subject: Bluffing missed flops worth it in 25NL?
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I went over a couple hundred of my most recent hands at 25NL on Empire to see where any leaks were. I'm rated at Tight-Passive/Passive (freaking mouse) and borderline Tight-Passive/Agressive (Rock) according to poker tracker defaults. But, I noticed when I miss a flop I am usually checking in early position. In late (last or second to last), I'll try to rep with 1xBB bet or 2xBB bet once in a while. Any raise, I fold in both cases. I can sometimes tell when another person is repping to buy the small pot. Who's betting $1 to win .50 when it's headsup and the flop is one suit or 2 Aces? I just fold to these rather than resteal. I'm very passive when I don't have a strong draw or at least 2nd highest pair.
Should I be more aggressive and try to pick up more free pots or is it not worth it at that level? I'm not sure if it's a minor leak or not. I know the other leaks and I am addressing them.
If I move to 6max, I assume picking up pots more worthwhile since the blinds come around quicker?
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biondino
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Yes, you should. If you're going to rep a hand that you don't have, you want everyone else to fold - so you have to make a bet they'll be afraid of, either because it says "I've got a monster" or because they simply can't risk that much without a strong made hand. So you're looking at pot-sized or just under.
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lowBoy
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What would you bet if you made your hand on the flop? Bet that.
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Rondavu
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09-14-2005, 11:48 PM
Post subject: Re: Bluffing missed flops worth it in 25NL?
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by r8ed
In late (last or second to last), I'll try to rep with 1xBB bet or 2xBB bet once in a while. Any raise, I fold in both cases.
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Did you say you rep with 1xBB or 2xBB postflop? That's not a representation. That's a bet that says "come over the top of me". I was a little confused by your description, so I'll just say this...
If I raised 5xBB preflop and got one caller, I continue for 8-10xBB on the flop depending on what the flop is. Certain boards aren't wise to continue on. Two broadways you don't hold, connected, suited. I would say I rep the flop about 80-85% of the time regardless of what flops. I usually don't raise preflop without a great hand if I feel I will be out of position postflop either. I don't like being duked after the flop from someone with an edge on me. If I miss a flop out of position, I might only continue 65% of the time.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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To be a consistently winning player, you need to pick up a lot of small pots instead of relying on your big hands to get paid off. However if you're playing with such tiny pots it is hard to do so limping into pots. Come in with a raise and follow up on the flop, you'll take it down 60-70 percent of the time. To make it a profitable play, the bet needs to be carefully chosen in relation to the pot. A bet of half the pot ensures that you only need to take the pot down right there one time in three. I'd reccomend a bet of 1/2 the pot to 2/3 the pot, and occasionally a bet of the entire pot. I don't always continuation bet, but I do it frequently. If you do it every single time players will become suspicious that you're bluffing them out of a lot of pots.
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