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Symbolic
Old 12-28-2005, 05:22 AM     Post subject: Bluff attempt and reasoning. #1 (permalink)  

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Hand 1638376371, Started at 12/27/2005 4:26 PM
Table 'Damman': $0.50-$0.50 No Limit HE (Real Money)
Seat 0: Side Rib ($38.40 in chips)
Seat 1: robertnesta1 ($46.25 in chips)
Seat 2: FieldXpert23 ($69.45 in chips)
Seat 3: chuck11xx ($57.60 in chips)
Seat 4: Symbolic0 ($52 in chips) (on the button)
Seat 5: ahvisst66 ($85.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Scotty_12 ($20.90 in chips)
Seat 7: Daigler ($35.40 in chips)
Seat 8: KidSimon ($29.75 in chips)
Seat 9: Lindepank ($63.85 in chips)
*** Blind Bet Round *** :
Dealt to Symbolic0: Ad
Dealt to Symbolic0: Kc
ahvisst66 : Post Blind ($0.25)
Scotty_12 : Post Blind ($0.50)
*** Pre-Flop *** :
Daigler : Fold
KidSimon : Fold
Lindepank : Fold
Side Rib : Call ($0.50)
robertnesta1 : Call ($0.50)
FieldXpert23 : Fold
chuck11xx : Call ($0.50)
Symbolic0 : Bet ($2.50)
ahvisst66 : Fold
Scotty_12 : Fold
Side Rib : Call ($2)
robertnesta1 : Call ($2)
chuck11xx : Call ($2)
*** Flop *** : 5s 10d Qc
Side Rib : Check
robertnesta1 : Bet ($3)
chuck11xx : Call ($3)
Symbolic0 : Raise ($8)
Side Rib : Fold
robertnesta1 : Call ($5)
chuck11xx : Fold
*** Turn *** : [ 5s 10d Qc ] 6s
robertnesta1 : Check
Symbolic0 : Bet ($15)

I actually had planned on getting a free card on the turn by the maneuver but when chuck11xx folded and robert just called the raise after his weak flop bet, I felt a move could be successful.

Is this a good line to take for a bluff, or could I have handled it a different way?
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:29 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I think people spew a lot of chips with AK playing hands like this.

But that's just me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:36 AM #3 (permalink)  

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True, lucky for me this time it worked. I just saw alot of weakness in his flop bet.
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Pretty easy to put him on a pair or osd. Just a question of how he's gonna play it. Not a big fan of blowing people off hands as a matter of routine.
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I agree 100%, if this was routine I'd be broke.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:23 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 I think you can find a call on the flop and a check/fold on the turn.
I agree this isnt the way to play AK. Because we class it as a reraise hand it seems to get treat as a licence to print money post flop and it isnt.
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Not enough people can fold top pair for this to be +EV I think.
Set farming works because this doesn't.
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Old 12-28-2005, 04:53 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Please stop saying your results after one person has replied get as many peoples input in and then tell us the results.

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Originally Posted by iRICHeyes
Set farming works because this doesn't.
Quoted for truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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Old 12-28-2005, 10:38 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I made a post a little while earlier about a very similar hand where I had AK and got 3 callers on a Q high flop. Anyway, as I explained in my post, this is why I tend to just check/fold a missed AK or overcards when I get 3 or more callers. You are trying to muscle villian out of this pot, and in the long run I am a firm believer that this is a very -EV play. I would just fold the flop. You have a gutshot and 2 overs that probably aren't live. In order to take the line you did, I would need a very solid and specific read. On a final note, your flop raise needs to be bigger if you really want to take it down right there. I think your fold equity with a $5 raise against 2 opponents into a $19 pot is close to zero. It's good that you are able to be aggressive, as it is key in NL. However, naked aggression or ill-timed aggression is just spewing chips.
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