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Old 09-13-2006, 06:27 PM     Post subject: Big stack at a ring table.. #1 (permalink)  
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Your up 3-4 buy ins. Do you change your play at all? If so how and what conditions do they depend on?


Or still solid pocket pots small unless nuts.
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Old 09-13-2006, 06:43 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #994,901,952
Table Ruse, 13 Sep 2006 01:41 PM
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Seat 2: orucker ($54.50 in chips)
Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($108.15 in chips)
Seat 6: PlayerH ($55.40 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [10C,QD] ($170.55 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($23.85 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
PlayerH posts blind ($0.25), RIPJohnGotti posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
metro44 calls $0.50, orucker calls $0.50, lindecrantz0 folds, PlayerH bets $1, RIPJohnGotti calls $0.75, metro44 calls $0.75, orucker calls $0.75.

FLOP [board cards 4S,9S,10H ]
PlayerH checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $5, metro44 calls $5, orucker folds, PlayerH folds.

TURN [board cards 4S,9S,10H,3H ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $7, metro44 bets $17.60 and is all-in, RIPJohnGotti calls $10.60.

RIVER [board cards 4S,9S,10H,3H,2S ]


SHOWDOWN
metro44 shows [ KD,10S ]
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 10C,QD ]
metro44 wins $49.20.


Situations like this occur, is he pushing on a flush draw or straight draw etc. I definately over bet the pot here and it took its toll on me with a marginal hand. I should probably being to throw out feel bets with marginal hands and keep pots small.
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Old 09-13-2006, 06:55 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't loosen up too much pf.

Remember what got you there in the first place. Don't be so quick to give it back.

Also keep two things in mind:

Because you are the big stack, people will look you up to get some of that stack if they have a piece of the flop.

Because you have the big stack, people will stay away from you because they don't want to get tangled up with you without some kind of hand. You have a little more FE....

All this goes out the window if they are shorties.
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don't change anything except be cautious vs. other deep stacks.
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:09 PM #5 (permalink)  
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don't change anything except be cautious vs. other deep stacks, and play more implied hands against other deep stacks preflop. Call isolation raises from other high stacks with connectors for example, to hit a weird straight and stack them deep.
It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:10 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Seat 1: chefmakler ($43.20 in chips)
Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($121.15 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [AH,KD] ($143.95 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($55.30 in chips)
Seat 10: mlecity ($22.25 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
mlecity posts blind ($0.25), chefmakler posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
lindecrantz0 folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $1.50, metro44 calls $1.50, mlecity folds, chefmakler folds.

FLOP [board cards JS,QH,9H ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 checks.

TURN [board cards JS,QH,9H,7D ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 bets $1.50, RIPJohnGotti calls $1.50.

RIVER [board cards JS,QH,9H,7D,8H ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 checks.

SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ AH,KD ]
metro44 shows [ 9S,2D ]
metro44 wins $6.25.



This shit amazes me at the .50 table, if I reraise him on the turn he probably calls like a donk who knows wtf he has this board is scarey as hell 92?
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:13 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #995,040,290
Table Ruse, 13 Sep 2006 02:12 PM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 1: chefmakler ($39.70 in chips)
Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($120.15 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [6C,9C] ($140.20 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($62.85 in chips)
Seat 10: mlecity ($22 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
metro44 posts blind ($0.25), mlecity posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
chefmakler bets $1, lindecrantz0 folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $1.50, metro44 calls $1.25, mlecity folds, chefmakler calls $0.50.

FLOP [board cards 5S,5D,KC ]
metro44 checks, chefmakler checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $3.50, metro44 folds, chefmakler calls $3.50.

TURN [board cards 5S,5D,KC,10D ]
chefmakler checks, RIPJohnGotti checks.

RIVER [board cards 5S,5D,KC,10D,5C ]
chefmakler checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $4, chefmakler calls $4.

SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 6C,9C ]
chefmakler shows [ AH,8C ]
chefmakler wins $19.

Unreal.
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:14 PM #8 (permalink)  
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don't change anything except be cautious vs. other deep stacks, and play more implied hands against other deep stacks preflop. Call isolation raises from other high stacks with connectors for example, to hit a weird straight and stack them deep.
yes, this too.
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:34 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($102.90 in chips)
Seat 6: gwr2 ($23.10 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [7S,6D] ($133.15 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($56 in chips)
Seat 10: mlecity ($15.15 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
gwr2 posts blind ($0.25), RIPJohnGotti posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
metro44 calls $0.50, mlecity folds, lindecrantz0 folds, gwr2 folds, RIPJohnGotti checks.

FLOP [board cards JC,3S,3D ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 checks.

TURN [board cards JC,3S,3D,5C ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 checks.

RIVER [board cards JC,3S,3D,5C,4H ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $5, metro44 calls $5.

SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 7S,6D ]
metro44 mucks cards [ AD,9S ]
RIPJohnGotti wins $10.75.
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:37 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #995,153,539
Table Ruse, 13 Sep 2006 02:37 PM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($103.35 in chips)
Seat 6: gwr2 ($20.80 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [AS,KC] ($140.70 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($64.40 in chips)
Seat 10: mlecity ($9.25 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
RIPJohnGotti posts blind ($0.25), metro44 posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
mlecity bets $1, lindecrantz0 folds, gwr2 folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $4, metro44 folds, mlecity calls $3.25.

FLOP [board cards 5H,JS,9H ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $5, mlecity calls $5 and is all-in.

TURN [board cards 5H,JS,9H,AD ]


RIVER [board cards 5H,JS,9H,AD,6C ]


SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ AS,KC ]
mlecity mucks cards [ 9D,10H ]
RIPJohnGotti wins $18.

When I mean horrible.
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:40 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #995,162,863
Table Ruse, 13 Sep 2006 02:39 PM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($102.10 in chips)
Seat 6: gwr2 ($20.55 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [10H,10S] ($148.95 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($67.15 in chips)
Seat 10: mlecity ($8 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
RIPJohnGotti posts blind ($0.25), metro44 posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
mlecity folds, lindecrantz0 folds, gwr2 bets $1.50, RIPJohnGotti calls $1.25, metro44 calls $1.

FLOP [board cards AS,6C,10D ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 checks, gwr2 bets $1, RIPJohnGotti calls $1, metro44 folds.

TURN [board cards AS,6C,10D,2D ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, gwr2 checks.

RIVER [board cards AS,6C,10D,2D,QH ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $6, gwr2 bets $12, RIPJohnGotti calls $6.

SHOWDOWN
gwr2 shows [ JC,AD ]
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 10H,10S ]
RIPJohnGotti wins $29.50.
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:43 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Seat 1: chefmakler ($43.20 in chips)
Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($121.15 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [AH,KD] ($143.95 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($55.30 in chips)
Seat 10: mlecity ($22.25 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
mlecity posts blind ($0.25), chefmakler posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
lindecrantz0 folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $1.50, metro44 calls $1.50, mlecity folds, chefmakler folds.

FLOP [board cards JS,QH,9H ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 checks.

TURN [board cards JS,QH,9H,7D ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 bets $1.50, RIPJohnGotti calls $1.50.

RIVER [board cards JS,QH,9H,7D,8H ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 checks.

SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ AH,KD ]
metro44 shows [ 9S,2D ]
metro44 wins $6.25.



This shit amazes me at the .50 table, if I reraise him on the turn he probably calls like a donk who knows wtf he has this board is scarey as hell 92?
You showed weakness by checking that flop heads up and following with a turn check. Had you bet, you might have chased him off. If he calls, you check/fold turn. You can see from the second hand with him that he is a calling station. He basically doesn't believe you when you check flop and then turn (and he was right). If you check/raise, he might fold, but calling him down without hitting one of your overcards is spewing.
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:50 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #995,208,812
Table Ruse, 13 Sep 2006 02:49 PM
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Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [5H,3H] ($168.25 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($71.15 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
metro44 posts blind ($0.25), RIPJohnGotti posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
metro44 calls $0.25, RIPJohnGotti checks.

FLOP [board cards 8H,AH,KS ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 bets $1.50, RIPJohnGotti calls $1.50.

TURN [board cards 8H,AH,KS,7H ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $2, metro44 calls $2.

RIVER [board cards 8H,AH,KS,7H,7D ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $10, metro44 calls $10.

SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 5H,3H ]
metro44 mucks cards [ 10H,KD ]
RIPJohnGotti wins $27.50.
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:52 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by ripjohngotti
Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #995,153,539
Table Ruse, 13 Sep 2006 02:37 PM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($103.35 in chips)
Seat 6: gwr2 ($20.80 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [AS,KC] ($140.70 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($64.40 in chips)
Seat 10: mlecity ($9.25 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
RIPJohnGotti posts blind ($0.25), metro44 posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
mlecity bets $1, lindecrantz0 folds, gwr2 folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $4, metro44 folds, mlecity calls $3.25.

FLOP [board cards 5H,JS,9H ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $5, mlecity calls $5 and is all-in.

TURN [board cards 5H,JS,9H,AD ]


RIVER [board cards 5H,JS,9H,AD,6C ]


SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ AS,KC ]
mlecity mucks cards [ 9D,10H ]
RIPJohnGotti wins $18.

When I mean horrible.
Yes, PF call is horrible, but you were behind when money went in. No way you fold against a shorty like that though....
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:53 PM #15 (permalink)  
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Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #995,208,812
Table Ruse, 13 Sep 2006 02:49 PM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [5H,3H] ($168.25 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($71.15 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
metro44 posts blind ($0.25), RIPJohnGotti posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
metro44 calls $0.25, RIPJohnGotti checks.

FLOP [board cards 8H,AH,KS ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 bets $1.50, RIPJohnGotti calls $1.50.

TURN [board cards 8H,AH,KS,7H ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $2, metro44 calls $2.

RIVER [board cards 8H,AH,KS,7H,7D ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $10, metro44 calls $10.

SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 5H,3H ]
metro44 mucks cards [ 10H,KD ]
RIPJohnGotti wins $27.50.
NH sir
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:55 PM #16 (permalink)  
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Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #995,040,290
Table Ruse, 13 Sep 2006 02:12 PM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 1: chefmakler ($39.70 in chips)
Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($120.15 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [6C,9C] ($140.20 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($62.85 in chips)
Seat 10: mlecity ($22 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
metro44 posts blind ($0.25), mlecity posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
chefmakler bets $1, lindecrantz0 folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $1.50, metro44 calls $1.25, mlecity folds, chefmakler calls $0.50.

FLOP [board cards 5S,5D,KC ]
metro44 checks, chefmakler checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $3.50, metro44 folds, chefmakler calls $3.50.

TURN [board cards 5S,5D,KC,10D ]
chefmakler checks, RIPJohnGotti checks.

RIVER [board cards 5S,5D,KC,10D,5C ]
chefmakler checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $4, chefmakler calls $4.

SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 6C,9C ]
chefmakler shows [ AH,8C ]
chefmakler wins $19.

Unreal.
I don't know that I would play it differently. Outside of dumping PF, though. You have to play these kinds of speculative hands with a raise every once in a while to mix it up, though. Don't make a habit of raising 69 sooted every time you look at it, for sure....
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:00 PM #17 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by ripjohngotti
Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #995,040,290
Table Ruse, 13 Sep 2006 02:12 PM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 1: chefmakler ($39.70 in chips)
Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($120.15 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [6C,9C] ($140.20 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($62.85 in chips)
Seat 10: mlecity ($22 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
metro44 posts blind ($0.25), mlecity posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
chefmakler bets $1, lindecrantz0 folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $1.50, metro44 calls $1.25, mlecity folds, chefmakler calls $0.50.

FLOP [board cards 5S,5D,KC ]
metro44 checks, chefmakler checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $3.50, metro44 folds, chefmakler calls $3.50.

TURN [board cards 5S,5D,KC,10D ]
chefmakler checks, RIPJohnGotti checks.

RIVER [board cards 5S,5D,KC,10D,5C ]
chefmakler checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $4, chefmakler calls $4.

SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 6C,9C ]
chefmakler shows [ AH,8C ]
chefmakler wins $19.

Unreal.
this isnt even a min. raise.
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:02 PM #18 (permalink)  
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Seat 1: chefmakler ($43.20 in chips)
Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($121.15 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [AH,KD] ($143.95 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($55.30 in chips)
Seat 10: mlecity ($22.25 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
mlecity posts blind ($0.25), chefmakler posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
lindecrantz0 folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $1.50, metro44 calls $1.50, mlecity folds, chefmakler folds.

FLOP [board cards JS,QH,9H ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 checks.

TURN [board cards JS,QH,9H,7D ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 bets $1.50, RIPJohnGotti calls $1.50.

RIVER [board cards JS,QH,9H,7D,8H ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 checks.

SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ AH,KD ]
metro44 shows [ 9S,2D ]
metro44 wins $6.25.



This shit amazes me at the .50 table, if I reraise him on the turn he probably calls like a donk who knows wtf he has this board is scarey as hell 92?
he made the right read on you here. you need to c-bet on boards like this when you raise pf.
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Originally Posted by ripjohngotti
Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #995,162,863
Table Ruse, 13 Sep 2006 02:39 PM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($102.10 in chips)
Seat 6: gwr2 ($20.55 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [10H,10S] ($148.95 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($67.15 in chips)
Seat 10: mlecity ($8 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
RIPJohnGotti posts blind ($0.25), metro44 posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
mlecity folds, lindecrantz0 folds, gwr2 bets $1.50, RIPJohnGotti calls $1.25, metro44 calls $1.

FLOP [board cards AS,6C,10D ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 checks, gwr2 bets $1, RIPJohnGotti calls $1, metro44 folds.

TURN [board cards AS,6C,10D,2D ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, gwr2 checks.

RIVER [board cards AS,6C,10D,2D,QH ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $6, gwr2 bets $12, RIPJohnGotti calls $6.

SHOWDOWN
gwr2 shows [ JC,AD ]
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 10H,10S ]
RIPJohnGotti wins $29.50.
i like to lead out this turn with a second diamond falling.
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i like to lead out this turn with a second diamond falling.
Most definitely.
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Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #995,040,290
Table Ruse, 13 Sep 2006 02:12 PM
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Seat 1: chefmakler ($39.70 in chips)
Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($120.15 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [6C,9C] ($140.20 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($62.85 in chips)
Seat 10: mlecity ($22 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
metro44 posts blind ($0.25), mlecity posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
chefmakler bets $1, lindecrantz0 folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $1.50, metro44 calls $1.25, mlecity folds, chefmakler calls $0.50.

FLOP [board cards 5S,5D,KC ]
metro44 checks, chefmakler checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $3.50, metro44 folds, chefmakler calls $3.50.

TURN [board cards 5S,5D,KC,10D ]
chefmakler checks, RIPJohnGotti checks.

RIVER [board cards 5S,5D,KC,10D,5C ]
chefmakler checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $4, chefmakler calls $4.

SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 6C,9C ]
chefmakler shows [ AH,8C ]
chefmakler wins $19.

Unreal.
this isnt even a min. raise.
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:41 PM #22 (permalink)  
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After looking at these hands, I can say one of two things are certain. Either your opponents are retarded, or you are building a loose image past the point of payoff. Either way you are at some point bluffing the unbluffable when your real hand value is primed and maxed. In other words, when people are willing to pay off your real hands with a wide range, it becomes absolutely retarded to bluff EVER.

In that hand you had TT, I cringed in disgust. You played that hand REALLY BAD from a value standpoint. Do you realize you could have had the villains stack? Do me a favor, when your opponents are loose to your bets by way of stupidity or your image, please BET YOUR REAL HANDS HARD ALL THE WAY. Don't slow down when you make a hand, and go 100 miles an hour without one. It's a classic maniac pattern. You sir are a maniac, but you can become a shark with the right kind of reads and betting.

Aaaah the beginning hands of a budding Lagg. I hope you become a skill lagg. I feel ya, because this was me at the beginning.
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 What do these hands have in common?:

Quote:
Originally Posted by ripjohngotti
Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #995,162,863
Table Ruse, 13 Sep 2006 02:39 PM
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Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($102.10 in chips)
Seat 6: gwr2 ($20.55 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [10H,10S] ($148.95 in chips)
Seat 9: metro44 ($67.15 in chips)
Seat 10: mlecity ($8 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
RIPJohnGotti posts blind ($0.25), metro44 posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
mlecity folds, lindecrantz0 folds, gwr2 bets $1.50, RIPJohnGotti calls $1.25, metro44 calls $1.

FLOP [board cards AS,6C,10D ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, metro44 checks, gwr2 bets $1, RIPJohnGotti calls $1, metro44 folds.

TURN [board cards AS,6C,10D,2D ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, gwr2 checks.

RIVER [board cards AS,6C,10D,2D,QH ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $6, gwr2 bets $12, RIPJohnGotti calls $6.
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Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #994,645,613
Table Ruse, 13 Sep 2006 12:43 PM
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Seat 3: lindecrantz0 ($82.80 in chips)
Seat 6: PlayerH ($59.10 in chips)
Seat 7: RIPJohnGotti [5H,5S] ($50.75 in chips)
Seat 8: babytrump ($48.75 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
babytrump posts blind ($0.25), lindecrantz0 posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
PlayerH bets $2, RIPJohnGotti calls $2, babytrump calls $1.75, lindecrantz0 folds.

FLOP [board cards KC,3D,5D ]
babytrump checks, PlayerH checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $4, babytrump bets $8, PlayerH folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $8, babytrump calls $4.

TURN [board cards KC,3D,5D,10C ]
babytrump checks, RIPJohnGotti checks.

RIVER [board cards KC,3D,5D,10C,3H ]
babytrump checks, RIPJohnGotti bets $10, babytrump bets $34.75 and is all-in, RIPJohnGotti calls $24.75.



 
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From what I know of OP, he is playing WAY WAY WAY out of his bankroll if he is playing $50 NL.
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You shouldn't worry about it until you are able to get up this many buy ins.
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Old 09-15-2006, 09:29 AM #26 (permalink)  
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stop slowplaying, if people have a hand to pay you off they will. It's esp. true if an Ace flops.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG+1 ($132.06)
UTG+2 ($87.75)
MP1 ($38.11)
MP2 ($93.94)
MP3 ($30.76)
CO ($153.75)
Button ($102.40)
Hero ($99.49)
BB ($10.50)
UTG ($136.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8, 8. MP2 posts a blind of $1. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG raises to $4, 5 folds, CO calls $4, 1 fold, Hero (poster) calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($14) 4, 8, A (3 players)
Hero bets $9.99, UTG calls $9.99, CO folds.

Turn: ($33.98) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $18.88, UTG calls $122.26 (All-In), Hero calls $66.62 (All-In).

River: ($241.74) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $241.74

Results in white below:
Hero has 8s 8d (three of a kind, eights).
UTG has Ks Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $204.98. UTG wins $36.76.
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Slowplay is Death I know, sometimes the table situation feels that you should , do you get what Im saying?
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Quote:
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Slowplay is Death I know, sometimes the table situation feels that you should , do you get what Im saying?
Good times to slowplay:

Flopped Quads
Flopped full house
Against insanely aggressive (read: Agg factor of 6 or abvoe) opps
Against normal opponents when you RAISE pf and nothing above say an 9 comes. Wait for them to rep their overcard. Prefer if the board is light on draws as well.
When you have the absolute nuts and know they will bet with a piece.

Other than that, bet it out!
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