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flyingPenguin

04-09-2007, 02:15 PM Post subject: Big overbet with a set.

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My first 3 hands at the table. I've not seen much of these guys before, if at all. No stats. The first 2 hands are standard, but lead into my play in the third hand.

1.
EverestPoker Game #1371748982: Table Berlin-9 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:33:02 - 2007/04/09
Seat 1: Eljardinero ($68.52)
Seat 2: Kejninio ($58.40)
Seat 3: titc ($6.60)
Seat 4: Marc35 ($25.05)
Seat 5: Don-Pascale ($18.08)
Seat 6: Attilator ($42.01)
Seat 7: Moebber ($11.45)
Seat 8: scofield888 ($77.91)
Seat 9: Feriba24 ($55.57)
Seat 10: flyingPeng1 ($50.00)
Feriba24 posts the small blind of $0.25
flyingPeng1 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to flyingPeng1[6s 6d]
Eljardinero folds
Kejninio folds
titc folds
Marc35 calls $0.50
Don-Pascale folds
Attilator folds
Moebber folds
scofield888 folds
Feriba24 calls $0.25
flyingPeng1 raises to $3.00
Marc35 folds
Feriba24 folds
Uncalled bet of $2.50 returned to flyingPeng1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
flyingPeng1 mucks
*** SUMMARY ***
flyingPeng1 collects $1.50

2.
EverestPoker Game #1371751622: Table Berlin-9 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:33:40 - 2007/04/09
Seat 1: Eljardinero ($68.52)
Seat 2: Kejninio ($58.40)
Seat 3: titc ($6.60)
Seat 4: Marc35 ($24.55)
Seat 5: Don-Pascale ($18.08)
Seat 6: Attilator ($42.01)
Seat 7: Moebber ($11.45)
Seat 8: scofield888 ($77.91)
Seat 9: Feriba24 ($55.07)
Seat 10: flyingPeng1 ($51.00)
flyingPeng1 posts the small blind of $0.25
Eljardinero posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to flyingPeng1[As Kc]
Kejninio folds
titc calls $0.50
Marc35 calls $0.50
Don-Pascale folds
Attilator folds
Moebber calls $0.50
scofield888 folds
Feriba24 folds
flyingPeng1 raises to $3.50
Eljardinero folds
titc folds
Marc35 calls $3.00
Moebber folds
*** FLOP *** [9s Ad 6c]
flyingPeng1 bets $5.00
Marc35 folds
Uncalled bet of $5.00 returned to flyingPeng1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
flyingPeng1 mucks
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [9s Ad 6c ]
flyingPeng1 collects $8.10

3. Now I'm reraised. I called because it's a min-raise and I have position. Looking back at it it's probably a push preflop because of his short stack, but anyway.... My query is about my last bet. Good or bad, considering my last two hands are the only others he's seen me play.

EverestPoker Game #1371755260: Table Berlin-9 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:34:32 - 2007/04/09
Seat 1: Eljardinero ($68.02)
Seat 2: Kejninio ($58.40)
Seat 3: titc ($6.10)
Seat 4: Marc35 ($21.05)
Seat 5: Don-Pascale ($18.08)
Seat 6: Attilator ($42.01)
Seat 7: Moebber ($10.95)
Seat 8: scofield888 ($77.91)
Seat 9: Feriba24 ($55.07)
Seat 10: flyingPeng1 ($55.60)
Eljardinero posts the small blind of $0.25
Kejninio posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to flyingPeng1[Th Td]
titc folds
Marc35 calls $0.50
Don-Pascale calls $0.50
Attilator folds
Moebber folds
scofield888 folds
Feriba24 folds
flyingPeng1 raises to $3.00
Eljardinero folds
Kejninio folds
Marc35 raises to $5.50
Don-Pascale folds
flyingPeng1 calls $2.50
*** FLOP *** [2h 7c Tc]
Marc35 checks
flyingPeng1 bets $50.10

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Muzzard

04-09-2007, 03:11 PM

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Without any specific reads guys at these limits usually have a tight reraising range. So TT should be a set or forget kind of hand in a reraised pot, unless you can put him on AK. This is usually JJ+ most the time.

If you think you're ahead and he is just playing back push preflop. Otherwise you have no implied set odds, as the guy only has a $20 stack, but w/e.

As played you have the nutz on the flop. Why chase out? I doubt he has an FD either as he would have bet the flop, so you can afford to

a) give villain a fee card
b) make a small bet on the flop, say around $6 or 7 and hope he has JJ+ and c/r's all-in

piratepeaty

04-09-2007, 03:29 PM

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Preflop is push or fold.

Flop sucks, you give him no chance to bluff. If he has an overpair, you get his money anyway.

flyingPenguin

04-10-2007, 08:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by piratepeaty

Preflop is push or fold.

Agreed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratepeaty

Flop sucks, you give him no chance to bluff. If he has an overpair, you get his money anyway.

If he has an overpair like JJ I get his money if I bet here, but possibly not if an overcard falls. He checks the flop where most players would c-bet. I thought he wanted me to bluff here, which I did.

Anyway, he called with JQ, so my bluff bluff worked. However I can see that I was lucky to get a call, and checking to induce a bluff may be higher EV. Just interested in what people thought of it as a non-standard play.

Muzzard

04-10-2007, 09:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingPenguin

Anyway, he called with JQ,

Lol, how can he call with just two overs? Unless he has a FD? I wish ppl would do this stuff vs me!

Rondavu

04-10-2007, 12:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PokerMuzz

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingPenguin

Anyway, he called with JQ,

Lol, how can he call with just two overs? Unless he has a FD? I wish ppl would do this stuff vs me!

LOL. This is a pretty standard short stack call. I have 6 outs!

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salsa4ever

04-11-2007, 02:51 AM

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Maybe I played too much Omaha, but betting when you got the nuts is never that bad. You've been active for the past few hands. I'd just 3/4PSB it, like I would if I had jack shit and was just bluffing

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KoRnholio

04-11-2007, 05:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by salsa4ever

Pretty much my thoughts too, but then again I know I play too much Omaha. Then again, I tend to get raped in NL ring games because I don't respect draws enough when they hit. I think I loosen up way too much from my PLO mindset.

Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.

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