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Fnord
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12-17-2005, 10:08 AM
Post subject: Big draw hits on turn, how's my line?
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Gamb00lPoker&SportBook.com 100NL 8 handed.
Kinda tightish passive table loosening up a bit. I really haven't been out of line much. Last hand I played I button raised a loose/weak limper and a $60 stack pushed out of the BB. He's since busted.
UTG limps, UTG+1 follows, UTG+2 folds, I call with Q J from HJ, CO poster checks, BN calls, SB completes, BB checks.
7 to the flop, $7 in the pot.
8 5 J
Checked to me, I bet $7, CO folds, Button raises to $14, all fold to me and I call.
I started with $101, button has $141. He's been off the radar, so probably tight/passive but really don't have much of a read.
Heads-up to the turn $35 in the pot.
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I bet $20...
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Personally I would check repping a weak top pair that didn't hit a flush draw.
But now that I think about it more I like your move better. It's a confusing bet because you just called his min raise but you bet the turn. You're repping a strong hand but if he has a really strong hand such as a set or top 2, I think he'll push all in, that's why i like the move.
preflop and flop are all good.
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Originally Posted by Lukie
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I like when people call and re-raise a wide range...
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I can't put him on a range with that flop.. A minraise from a tight-passive opponent, 55/88? A reraise for info with JT, KJ, AJ?
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Telepath
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Not sure. I would also probably have checked the turn. Like it did play out it looks awfully lot like you bet a draw and hit it.
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
Personally I would check repping a weak top pair that didn't hit a flush draw.
But now that I think about it more I like your move better. It's a confusing bet because you just called his min raise but you bet the turn. You're repping a strong hand but if he has a really strong hand such as a set or top 2, I think he'll push all in, that's why i like the move.
preflop and flop are all good.
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I wrote a post that said pretty much excactly the same as this but then i didnt post it... ill agree with you though 
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I'd bet out because it's tough for him to put you on a flush here, and he might put you on a draw and come over the top. The min-raise looks like he has a a set. I would bet out though so we can price him into giving the rest of his chips away by the river.
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When I think about it I do like the bet... You are headsup for the pot, and like ais said, betting will price him into the pot.
Incidentally, did it work?
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When do you plan on getting it all-in? I don't think a wide range of hands raises here, even with a $20 bet. What is your image like? In any case, a limp to min-raise on the flop is pretty scary.
Do you really want to give Ax, Kx, or a limped PP nearly 3:1 here to see a river? Are you betting $20 here when you don't hold 2 hearts?
There are 19 cards that you don't want to see on the river.
What's your plan if a 3, 5, 8, J, or heart hits? Check-call?
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Weak players will check non-flush hands behind here a lot and I don't think anything less than 2pr/set calls pot here.
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Are you betting $20 here when you don't hold 2 hearts?
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Sometimes.
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Do you really want to give Ax, Kx, or a limped PP nearly 3:1 here to see a river?
What's your plan if a 3, 5, 8, J, or heart hits?
I'm just curious to see how you'd play this. I don't like to mess around with a very strong, but vulnerable hand OOP.
In favor of a $20ish bet, you would still be forcing them to make a mistake if they called. I suppose a big part of this comes down to your image and the amount of respect you have for your opponent. Against even a slightly fishy opponent, in your own words, I'm dropping the hammer here. Perhaps it would be smarter to try to push a smaller edge against a solid opponent.
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What's your plan if a 3, 5, 8, J, or heart hits?
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Check and think about calling.
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Against even a slightly fishy opponent, in your own words, I'm dropping the hammer here. Perhaps it would be smarter to try to push a smaller edge against a solid opponent.
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Doesn't seem the type to make horrible calls. I generally pick up on them pretty quick.
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