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| siknd |
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this is just shameless self-promotion. i love this hand! 1. i think it was played correctly on all streets so that i didnt need to worry about cashing in on my implied odds? or do you think i need to be raising this river to ensure long-term profit? 2. also, what is your turn play when you pick up outs like this in a multi-way passive pot in posn? take the free card? (imo taking the free card is actually a mistake strictly by the probabilites of making my hand with sf draw vs this many opps. Ie if its correct to call 2:1, SURely its correct to bet out 5:1?) 3. i miss the river, and the same 20$ bet is to me. my play? im pretty sure i fold it. Poker Room skin No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $1/$2 9 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $67 UTG+1: $216 MP1: $133.40 MP2: $189.20 MP3: $100 CO: $40.60 siknd: $224 SB: $196 BB: $273 Pre-flop: (9 players) siknd is Button with 3  5 2 folds, MP1 calls $2 (pot was $3), 2 folds, CO calls $2 (pot was $5), siknd calls $2 (pot was $7), SB calls $1 (pot was $9), BB checks. Flop: 2 4 Q ($10, 5 players)SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, CO checks, siknd bets $5, SB folds, BB calls $5 (pot was $15), MP1 calls $5 (pot was $20), CO calls $5 (pot was $25). Turn: T ($30, 4 players)BB checks, MP1 checks, CO checks, siknd bets $15, BB calls $15 (pot was $45), MP1 calls $15 (pot was $60), CO folds. River: 8 ($75, 3 players)BB checks, MP1 bets $20, siknd calls $20 (pot was $95), BB folds. Results: Final pot: $115 MP1 has KD10C siknd has 3D5D |
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| midas06 |
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| I wouldn't raise this river. Passive player suddenly donking 5th street starts alarms. I don't see any other play on the river that doesn't involve folding if you miss your draw and are bet into. | |||
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| Dude that guy pulled the most incredible donk bet I have seen ina while.Wow. | |||
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| jmontis |
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flop isn't bad, I definitely slow down on the turn though, I'd rather check raise a large amount than just bluff out into a field of players. Raise that river you pansy  If he has a bigger flush, pay it off and say nh. The reason why is you showed aggression earlier in the hand and he's very likely to pay off a large bet with a worse hand.
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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| siknd |
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2. the only problem with this turn bet is that ive actively decided to build the pot, its designed to get as many callers possible. when betting with a drawing hand, do you feel that you should always give your opponents the opportunity to fold by betting more, ie more semi-bluff and less value bet? 3. i built the pot nicely here. how silly do i feel if i check the turn, catch my card and win a nothing pot? a straight-flush draw is really a pretty solid 'hand'. 4. i feel pretty safe betting out into several players. headsup im tempted to check behind. firstly id be very afraid of being trap CRd all in (less of a threat in a multi-pot?), but also id be getting poorer odds by having fewer players to call my bet. 5. i cant checkraise, im button. Quote:
2. however, im mostly with midas on this one. i mean, i have NO definition of this persons hand. if i find out he was slowplaying a set the whole time, i would be pretty pissed at myself for not stacking him. but theres just no way to tell. as it turns out in this hand, he folding to anything but perhaps a minraise. this board needed more paint for me to continue aggression on the river. it was so raggy i couldnt really put him on a hand i felt 100% safe in raising. |
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'If you think a weakness can be turned into a strength, I hate to tell you this, but that's another weakness. '
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| sejje |
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On a different board, I'd raise the river. There's no obvious straight there, we have a very low flush. I don't like a raise here. We might get paid by two pair, though. |
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| jmontis |
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| I just think it's crazy to bet the whole way with nothing, then simply call a bet after we make a very strong hand that is best here more often than not. | |||
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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| Fnord |
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| I don't like the turn bet. I see no reason to think 3 other players are folding, so take your free card. | |||
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| siknd |
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okay, heres a question then: how much would you bet out if i had top pair instead of a draw? |
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