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rivercrest13
Old 09-25-2004, 08:22 PM     Post subject: betting flush draws #1 (permalink)  

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is this a good idea or was i just lucky? (i have a feeling i know the answer ) but as it turns out, he should've folded anyway.

***** Hand History for Game 981534617 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Fri Sep 24 00:30:44 EDT 2004
Table Crystal Ball (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Sentrie ( $98.15)
Seat 2: rivercrest13 ( $56.05)
Seat 3: FreudianChip ( $23)
Seat 4: B4TTERY ( $79.35)
Seat 5: likehazaaa ( $21.90)
Seat 6: piMp3z ( $46.77)
Seat 7: BlueStorm ( $24.50)
Seat 8: Catfish_Web ( $38.45)
Seat 9: BrassFox ( $44)
Seat 10: jordan2323 ( $18)
Sentrie posts small blind (0.25)
rivercrest13 posts big blind (0.50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to rivercrest13 [ Js, 3s ]
FreudianChip folds.
B4TTERY folds.
likehazaaa folds.
piMp3z folds.
BlueStorm folds.
Catfish_Web raises (1) to 1
jordan2323 folds.
Sentrie folds.
rivercrest13 calls (0.50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ks, 5h, As ]
rivercrest13 bets (3)
Catfish_Web calls (3)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3h ]
rivercrest13 bets (8)
Catfish_Web calls (8)
** Dealing River ** : [ Ts ]
rivercrest13 checks.
Catfish_Web bets (20)
rivercrest13 calls (20)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $61.25 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Ks 5h As 3h Ts ]
Sentrie balance $97.90, lost $0.25 (folded)
rivercrest13 balance $85.30, bet $32, collected $61.25, net +$29.25 [ Js 3s ] [ a flush, ace high -- As,Ks,Js,Ts,3s ]
FreudianChip balance $23, didn't bet (folded)
B4TTERY balance $79.35, didn't bet (folded)
likehazaaa balance $21.90, didn't bet (folded)
piMp3z balance $46.77, didn't bet (folded)
BlueStorm balance $24.50, didn't bet (folded)
Catfish_Web balance $6.45, lost $32 [ Qs Jc ] [ a straight, ten to ace -- As,Ks,Qs,Jc,Ts ]
BrassFox balance $44, sits out
jordan2323 balance $18, didn't bet (folded)
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michael1123
Old 09-25-2004, 08:34 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Jesus, where is this, Party Poker? Horrid calling by him. Anyway, if the flop was rags and you had a flush draw, then it would make more sense to lead out like that. After his preflop raise, its probably not smart since you should assume he probably has an A or a K, making him the favorite and you taking away your own pot odds. But if he checked the flop, I'd definitely bet the turn.
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Old 09-25-2004, 09:18 PM #3 (permalink)  

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I hear what you're saying about putting him on at least an A or K, but i'm used to people raising pre-flop with things like QJo at Party/Empire, so i thought i'd rep the A or K and see what happened. I wasn't concerned after he just called the flop bet, but i was after he called the turn bet. luckily, salvation came on the river. I think I've decided that this isn't a good thing to do in general because I could've easily wasted a lot of money. sometimes, i just can't help myself though.
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Old 09-25-2004, 10:41 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Yeah, I'd save it for bigger pots, like ones that were raised big preflop. If they come rags and you have two overs and a flush draw, then it may be a great move.
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:54 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Pre-flop: Call mainly for image. Fold the flop with anything short of a flush draw or 2 pair.
Flop: Standard.
Turn: Check and call his likely $3 bet or under-bet and hope he thinks he's slow playing his big pair. Fold if you don't get at least 3 to 1 on your call. Unless he's a total tool, not many hands call that flop and fold the turn.
River: Check is bad as I would expect a big pair to check behind. So a value bet is clearly the better play. Not re-raising him all-in with the 2nd nut (with a very freak nut) is horrible.
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