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forkmantis
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06-26-2005, 10:13 PM
Post subject: Better play of flopped trips?
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Could I have played this better? I felt pretty safe when I saw the turn, and MP2 waited a long time before calling my bet. I bet when I saw the Q thinking only 8J or JK could beat me on this board. He waited a long time again before reraising me, during which time I considered what he might hae that could beat me. I knew JK or 8J would beat me, but I convinced myself he had one or two pair. Looking back, I wonder if I should have pushed all in on the turn. I'm still very noobish when it comes to real money games, so go easy 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (7 handed) converter
Hero ($3.18)
Button ($1.90)
SB ($3.37)
BB ($1.07)
UTG ($4.70)
MP1 ($5.12)
MP2 ($7.45)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 , 9 .
UTG calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 raises to $0.04, Hero calls $0.04, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02.
Flop: ($0.19) 9 , T , 6 (4 players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $0.08, Hero raises to $0.25, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.17.
Turn: ($0.69) 5 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.33, MP2 calls $0.33.
River: ($1.35) Q (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.89, MP2 raises to $2.68, Hero calls $1.67 (All-In).
Final Pot: $6.59
Results in white below:
MP2 has Jc Kc (straight, king high).
Hero has 9c 9h (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: MP2 wins $6.58.
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spino1i
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At that level (.01/.02 NL), when you make a hand you have to overbet the pot somewhat, because people call so much with complete junk that might have have a slight chance of beating you. On the turn, bet 1$ instead of .35 cents, giving him horrible odds to call you. He'll probably still call, but he's basically comitted that point, and the odds are 92% in your favor. Those are good odds
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forkmantis
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06-27-2005, 03:19 AM
Post subject: Thanks
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Yeah, playing at this level seems a lot like playing play money, but unfortunately, this is where my bankroll allows me to play at the moment.
I'll try being more aggressive when I make a hand.
Is it even worth posting $.01/$.02 hand histories here?
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Pot the turn, maybe even AI
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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spino1i
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06-27-2005, 03:24 AM
Post subject: Re: Thanks
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Originally Posted by forkmantis
Yeah, playing at this level seems a lot like playing play money, but unfortunately, this is where my bankroll allows me to play at the moment.
I'll try being more aggressive when I make a hand.
Is it even worth posting $.01/$.02 hand histories here?
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Its still money isnt it? Then its good in my book! As long as it aint play money lol. I mean sure the play isn't world class, but we all gotta start somewhere eh?
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bair
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there was nothing you could do except go all in on the flop, which would be stupid. he hit a flush draw on the turn and since he values gutshots so high then obviously he will call any amount of money with a flush draw. you had no chance
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spino1i
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Didnt see the fact he had a flush draw on the turn.. yeh might even go all in on the turn with all those drawing possiblities
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moiraine57
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06-27-2005, 10:08 AM
Post subject: Re: Better play of flopped trips?
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Originally Posted by forkmantis
Could I have played this better? I felt pretty safe when I saw the turn, and MP2 waited a long time before calling my bet. I bet when I saw the Q thinking only 8J or JK could beat me on this board. He waited a long time again before reraising me, during which time I considered what he might hae that could beat me.
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I have noticed what I believe to be an online tell: it doesn't happen very often, but I would say the great majority (75%) of the time when someone waits a long time and then raises, they have you beat. Absent any other information, I would have taken that as a warning.
I dunno why they do it. They're either purposely delaying, trying to signify weakness, or they're playing around with the slider bar, experimenting with different bet sizes, trying to find a good amount they think you'll call.
Take it for what it's worth, and see if it holds true at the limits you play it.
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forkmantis
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06-27-2005, 12:30 PM
Post subject: Re: Better play of flopped trips?
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Originally Posted by moiraine57
I have noticed what I believe to be an online tell: it doesn't happen very often, but I would say the great majority (75%) of the time when someone waits a long time and then raises, they have you beat. Absent any other information, I would have taken that as a warning.
I dunno why they do it. They're either purposely delaying, trying to signify weakness, or they're playing around with the slider bar, experimenting with different bet sizes, trying to find a good amount they think you'll call.
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You're probably right. I've done it myself, for both of the reasons you specified. I'll keep an eye out for that.
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