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Renton

03-08-2006, 02:46 AM Post subject: Ballzy AA bet.

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Am I crazy?

***** Hand History for Game 3690847648 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, March 07, 22:34:12 ET 2006
Table Table 96599 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 5: lying_low ( $61 )
Seat 2: Renton555 ( $31.89 )
Seat 1: kenji08 ( $25.51 )
Seat 9: FBP2119 ( $26 )
Seat 4: SErebel_11 ( $27.54 )
Seat 6: OrangeRule06 ( $2.20 )
Seat 10: x_Halloway_x ( $24.83 )
Seat 3: AATallBillAA ( $21.50 )
Seat 7: Ygden ( $22.51 )
Seat 8: repae2 ( $11.75 )
kenji08 posts small blind [$0.10].
Renton555 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ Ac Ad ]
x_Halloway_x: nb
AATallBillAA raises [$0.50].
SErebel_11 calls [$0.50].
lying_low folds.
OrangeRule06 folds.
Ygden calls [$0.50].
kenji08: ty
repae2 folds.
FBP2119 folds.
x_Halloway_x folds.
kenji08 folds.
Renton555 raises [$1.25].
AATallBillAA calls [$1].
>You have options at Table 97124 Table!.
>You have options at Table 96575 Table!.
SErebel_11 calls [$1].
Ygden folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, As, Td ]
Renton555 bets [$4].
AATallBillAA raises [$8].
SErebel_11 folds.
Renton555 calls [$4].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
Renton555 bets [$12].
AATallBillAA is all-In [$12]

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bencathers

03-08-2006, 03:50 AM

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What gives you the indication he has a King? Does pocket kings really play that aggressively on the flop?

Anyway, even if he does have a king, you have outs for a boat or better and I like the play... a lot. I wouldn't even be shocked if you got called by a flush draw... or maybe, just maybe KsQs

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Jimmy Mac

03-08-2006, 03:55 AM

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With a minraise and two callers in front, I bump it up alot more here with the Aces. I want to get more of the effective stack in preflop, especially as I'm out of position.

I like your flop bet. When he minraises it, I just push. I don't want to see another broadway on the turn, and I'd expect a call here from AK/two pair/Set.

dsaxton

03-08-2006, 04:07 AM

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You're ahead a high percentage of the time here, and you'd be correct in check-calling his all-in given the pot size relative to his stack. You don't, however, want to give a free card to a flush draw, so you might as well initiate the action with an all-in bet.

I wouldn't really call this bet ballsy.

bdawg56kg

03-08-2006, 06:34 AM

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I go all in on the flop. He seems to like his hand, so put him to the test. Your turn line comes down to what hand range you put him on. If you don't think he's capable of playing a flush draw this way, then check/call or CR AI is the right line, since you give him a chance to bluff a wide range on a very scary board when you show "weakness". And you shouldn't worry about giving a free card here to anything except a flush draw.

Renton

03-08-2006, 01:17 PM

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I put him on two pair or an underset and went with my read, with one of those two hands it was impossible he had the king. When a spade didn't fall on the turn, I knew I was winning, so I pushed.

He called and sure enough he had QT for two pair. The river boated me just in case

Renton

03-08-2006, 01:19 PM

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So the general consensus is you guys would go all in on the flop? I was thinking about how n00bs are obsessed with KJ and raise and reraise with it all day long, so I couldn't completely discount the possibility that he had flopped the straight, so I played the flop fairly cautiously.

DaHorror

03-08-2006, 03:10 PM

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Let's say he has KJ...at what point were you planning to fold? Never. Nothing wrong with getting it all in on the flop.
The turn was definitely a scare card - but for him, not you (if he thought you might have AK or KK)! He should have folded there and dried up your action...

Renton

03-08-2006, 03:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHorror

Let's say he has KJ...at what point were you planning to fold? Never.

Fold? No. But with a rock solid read that he had KJ I definately would have waited for the riverboat to get my money in there.

r8ed

03-08-2006, 03:35 PM

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All-in on the flop every time. He already reraised you and there are draws out the wazoo.

sejje

03-08-2006, 04:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHorror

Let's say he has KJ...at what point were you planning to fold? Never.

Fold? No. But with a rock solid read that he had KJ I definately would have waited for the riverboat to get my money in there.

What's the point in waiting, if you're not folding? What if there's no riverboat?

Renton

03-08-2006, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sejje

What if there's no riverboat?

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Lukie

03-08-2006, 08:16 PM

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