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skynard

02-18-2005, 03:12 AM Post subject: Bad Play or just Bad Luck?

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Wanted to post this and get your input. Two parts to this one:

1) Just to give you the scenario, we're down to the last 50 or so people of a MTT with the top 40 getting money. I'm third in chips at the table and in the small blind. I've been playing fairly tight at the table and have not seen much action on my pre-flop raises. In the small blind on this hand. Here's the history:

***** Hand History for Game 1602714092 *****
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 9625671) - Wed Feb 16 23:10:01 EST 2005
Table $7500 Daily Guaranteed(246537) Table 4 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: tayler6 (7282)
Seat 2: cdpomb (15156)
Seat 3: krom24 (2960)
Seat 4: ajs37 (12215)
Seat 5: MadManPoker (2680)
Seat 6: lago_Spain (3030)
Seat 7: river_guppy (8625)
Seat 8: PotHeadAce (6804)
Seat 9: FlushyT (6771)
Seat 10: elkhunter48 (3494)
river_guppy posts small blind (200)
PotHeadAce posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to river_guppy

FlushyT folds.
elkhunter48 folds.
tayler6 folds.
cdpomb folds.
krom24 folds.
ajs37 folds.
MadManPoker folds.
lago_Spain folds.
river_guppy calls (200)
PotHeadAce raises (400) to 800
river_guppy calls (400)
** Dealing Flop ** : :Th: Ad

river_guppy bets (800)
PotHeadAce calls (800)
** Dealing Turn ** : :Td:
river_guppy bets (4200)
PotHeadAce raises (5204) to 5204
PotHeadAce is all-In.
river_guppy calls (1004)
** Dealing River ** : :Ts:
Creating Main Pot with $13608 with PotHeadAce
** Summary **
Main Pot: 13608 |
Board: :Th: Ad

:Td: :Ts:
tayler6 balance 7282, didn't bet (folded)
cdpomb balance 15156, didn't bet (folded)
krom24 balance 2960, didn't bet (folded)
ajs37 balance 12215, didn't bet (folded)
MadManPoker balance 2680, didn't bet (folded)
lago_Spain balance 3030, didn't bet (folded)
river_guppy balance 1821, lost 6804

PotHeadAce balance 13608, bet 6804, collected 13608, net +6804 :Qc: :Qd:
FlushyT balance 6771, didn't bet (folded)
elkhunter48 balance 3494, didn't bet (folded)

I understand that he had plenty of outs here, but would you have made the same play at the pot on the turn?

2) After this loss, I had two trips around the table worth of blinds. We're down to the last 41. Next man out is out of the money. On another table, one guy has less than one BB left. I get dealt QQ and get my all-in out flopped by a caller with A9o. My intention was to try to work my way back and win the tournament. I got all my chips in with the best hand pre-flop and it didn't work out. My question is, do you make the same play or do you slow play it and fold to any scare cards hoping that someone else busts out so you can make the money?

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Greedo017

02-18-2005, 03:33 AM

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i think both times you did right, luck just didn't fall your way. with the flush, good push. he only had 11 outs with the qq, he was way wrong to call with the ace overcard and the flush threat, it was just a tough break. when you got qq a few hands later, easy push, you were way shortstacked, and making it to 40th really doesn't mean crap, winning 13 cents doesn't really seem worth the time, to me anyway.

skynard

02-18-2005, 03:39 AM

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Thanks for the quick reply. Actually he had 11 outs if you consider that any diamond gives him a higher flush. I feel like I made the right move in both cases but just wanted to get other's opinions.

Greedo017

02-18-2005, 03:40 AM

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hah, you're quick, i thought about the flush right after i posted it and checked to see if his q was a diamond but couldn't fix it until you caught me.

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