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Cocco_Bill
Old 04-17-2005, 01:43 AM     Post subject: Bad play? #1 (permalink)  
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My reasoning for the river overbet was that if he caught a high flush he would probably pay me off. I have been losing a baffling amount of full houses lately though, pokertracker almost has me in the red now with the full house after 15k hands!

***** Hand History for Game 1905784288 *****
$50 NL Hold'em - Saturday, April 16, 21:30:33 EDT 2005
Table Table 37261 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: Dr_Daddy ( $83.33 )
Seat 3: Bazaar ( $63.7 )
Seat 4: txqnofhrts ( $49.36 )
Seat 6: BillyTormont ( $38.33 )
Seat 7: Libations ( $75.25 )
Seat 1: pokamastah1 ( $70.5 )
Seat 9: TakingItEasy ( $40.5 )
Seat 8: badmfjoea ( $59.7 )
Seat 5: horseboy180 ( $32.75 )
Seat 10: Roman446 ( $28.9 )
pokamastah1 posts small blind [$0.25].
Dr_Daddy posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to pokamastah1 [ 2d Ad ]
Bazaar calls [$0.5].
txqnofhrts calls [$0.5].
horseboy180 calls [$0.5].
BillyTormont folds.
>You have options at Table 36881 Table!.
>You have options at Table 36572 Table!.
Libations folds.
badmfjoea folds.
TakingItEasy folds.
pokamastah1 calls [$0.25].
Dr_Daddy checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, 2h, As ]
pokamastah1 bets [$1.5].
Dr_Daddy folds.
>You have options at Table 36881 Table!.
Bazaar calls [$1.5].
txqnofhrts folds.
horseboy180 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2c ]
pokamastah1 checks.
>You have options at Table 36881 Table!.
>You have options at Table 36572 Table!.
Bazaar checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
pokamastah1 is all-In [$68.5]
>You have options at Table 36881 Table!.
Bazaar is all-In [$61.7]
pokamastah1 shows [ 2d, Ad ] a full house, Twos full of aces.
Bazaar shows [ Ah, Ac ] a full house, Aces full of twos.
pokamastah1 wins $6.8 from side pot #1 with a full house, Twos full of aces.
Bazaar wins $125.9 from the main pot with a full house, Aces full of twos
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Old 04-17-2005, 02:07 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Ouch ouch ouch make it stop, he what, case A, limp, what? I think this is in the wrong forum. I like the hammer drop. Maybe a reasonable bet on the turn as well would have revealed his hand? I doubt it, however. I think flush would call you here. OUCH! ACK!
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dsaxton
Old 04-17-2005, 02:17 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Make a callable bet on the turn. If he called your bet on the flop, he probably has an ace and will call a bet on the turn. This also serves to disguise your hand as a bare ace. Follow with another bet on the river, and reraise if he raises. It's pretty absurd that this guy actually had pocket aces, since he played the hand about as poorly as you can at almost every opportunity.

Just going all-in out of the blue on the river with a full house after your opponent has shown weakness doesn't really make any sense.
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Old 04-17-2005, 02:24 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dsaxton
Make a callable bet on the turn. If he called your bet on the flop, he probably has an ace and will call a bet on the turn. This also serves to disguise your hand as a bare ace. Follow with another bet on the river, and reraise if he raises. It's pretty absurd that this guy actually had pocket aces, since he played the hand about as poorly as you can at almost every opportunity.

Just going all-in out of the blue on the river with a full house after your opponent has shown weakness doesn't really make any sense.
I disagree with the all in move as a bad move. It has often brought down some very big pots for me in situations like this. If you think that there is a real chance that your opponent was drawing and hit a flush, then I like this move.
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Old 04-17-2005, 03:05 AM #5 (permalink)  
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A flush may call or may fold to an all-in, any other hand other than a full house will fold. A set of 2's and an ace will call a smaller bet, and a flush may very well raise a smaller bet.

I think this is the better play because it extracts maximum value from a wide range of hands.
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