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Old 09-28-2006, 12:05 AM     Post subject: bad AA line? #1 (permalink)  
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 MP1 is 50/0 over the first 10 hands, CO is 21/7 over 150 hands.

i tanked for a bit calling his reraise. scary flop, so i thought leading out quick here might get someone to play back and i could push.

opinions on this line? how could i have extracted more?


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BB ($51.12)
UTG ($9)
DOUGthe_HEAD ($30.10)
MP1 ($14.59)
MP2 ($22.55)
MP3 ($27.25)
CO ($39)
Button ($35.68)
SB ($20)

Preflop: DOUGthe_HEAD is UTG+1 with A, A. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, DOUGthe_HEAD raises to $1, MP1 calls $1, 2 folds, CO raises to $3, 3 folds, UTG folds, DOUGthe_HEAD calls $2, MP1 calls $2.

Flop: ($9.60) K, 4, Q (3 players)
DOUGthe_HEAD bets $6, MP1 folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: $15.60
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:08 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 not a bad line. any less of a bet and you are letting every hand out there catch up to your pair. i usually bet more on this flop.


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 check/raise and fold to a push on that flop
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:13 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Why would you flat call a bet preflop with AA??!??!!??!?!?!?!?!
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:39 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I would have 3-bet to $10 preflop as I'm OOP and lead the flop. But as played its fine imho.
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Why would you flat call a bet preflop with AA??!??!!??!?!?!?!?!
CO was the person i was most worried about, and he is only a 6% pfr. his reraising range is considerably tighter. if i figure im up against a JJ+ situation, i want him to think he has the upper hand going into the flop.

on a safe board, i would c/r when he puts out a c-bet. with a scary flop such as this, a big part of his range just made trips, and i want to stick out a 2/3ish pot bet, and if i get reraised, im probly dumping it.
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Reraise preflop.
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Why would you flat call a bet preflop with AA??!??!!??!?!?!?!?!
CO was the person i was most worried about, and he is only a 6% pfr. his reraising range is considerably tighter. if i figure im up against a JJ+ situation, i want him to think he has the upper hand going into the flop.

on a safe board, i would c/r when he puts out a c-bet. with a scary flop such as this, a big part of his range just made trips, and i want to stick out a 2/3ish pot bet, and if i get reraised, im probly dumping it.
the reason for my line is because this is a scary board!
If you bet out and get raised, you risk being pushed out by AK (id imagine that at least AKs is in his range)
However, if you let him bet and u can raise him to 15-16, he's going to push sets because of the flush/straight draws and call or fold AK. But, if this is the type of guy who likes to bet full pot even with really strong hands, your line is probably best, because your C/R will pretty much commit you to the pot. I think I like mine better if he usually bets 2/3 or less.
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Reraise preflop.
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i 3bet pf as well
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Reraise preflop.
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Check/raise the flop all-in.

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Reraise preflop.
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That's rather absurd. $9 gets the job done. $6 if you think they suck.
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:59 PM #13 (permalink)  
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definitely reraise pf if one guy is a calling station and the other guy is tight. the calling station may come along, and the tight guy wont have a chance to be scared of his AK not hitting, or have it look like his TT/JJ is beaten by a K, Q, or A on the flop.

a tight guy usually wont reraise pf unless he thinks he is ahead, and he usually wont be able to admit that he was wrong when you scream "I have aces" at him.
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