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Old 03-26-2005, 01:16 AM     Post subject: ATs flush draw out of position vs loose/passive players #1 (permalink)  
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fishypoker.com $200NL, $1/$2 binds.


I'm in the SB with with $200, most stacks are between $100 and $200.

3 limpers and a poster to me and I just call.
6 to the flop of $10 in the pot
blinds check, EP bets $4, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, LP calls, poster folds, I call, BB folds
4 to the turn $26 in the pot
I check, EP bets $4 again, MP1 calls, MP2 raises to $16, LP calls, I call, EP calls, MP1 folds
3 to the river (doh) $77 in the pot after rake
I check planning to call a very small bet...

I see hands like this all the time at lower stakes and I think aggro players fail to win the max and lose the least here.
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Old 03-26-2005, 07:08 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 I dont like flsuh draws at the higher limits as it is such a easy draw to see coming and you arent gonna get payed off all that much. Now open ended strt+ 4 to the flush now thats a hand I like to go at it with.
 
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These guys SUCK. Getting paid off here is not a problem. Besides, I'd really like a set and a 12 inch dick. But we don't always get what we want...

I however have 2 hands I do want you to look at. Both draws as well...
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Pacific Poker $200 NL $1/$2 blinds

I have $212 and am in MP with


UTG limps, I make it $6, Fishy calls, Button calls, sb folds, BB calls, UTG calls

5 to the flop $30 in the pot

Checked to me and I bet $25, fishy calls, button calls, everyone else bails.

3 to the turn, $103 in the pot

I check, fishy bets $25, button folds, I raise to $75, fishy calls

heads up to the river, $253 in the pot

I push for $106, fishy calls

MHIG
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Old 03-26-2005, 03:21 PM #5 (permalink)  
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With players this bad, you know you need some kind of hand to take to showdown. TPTK on that board probably isn't doing it.

There's no sense disguising your hand since you're in the middle of 4 or 5 player fields. So just flat drawing is a good line here.

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Old 03-27-2005, 09:18 AM #6 (permalink)  
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First hand...I dont agree with at all. ATs to me has turned into AXs a hand i love to hate. Too weak to pair and over kill with the flush. I have had a hard time getting paid off on flushes to the point that I have all but stopped playing AXs without 2-3x preflop raise. Looks weak as hell but makes chasing easier at lower levels.

Second hand...Made his set and couldnt lay it down.
Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
 
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Second hand...Made his set and couldnt lay it down.
The second hand is illustrating how bad the players are since they paid off his flush.

MHIG means "My Hand Is Good."

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