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spino1i
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07-27-2005, 04:18 AM
Post subject: The Art of Slowplay
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: 25/50's f'in hard!
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Bigrich was asking for some advice on how to slowplay, so here it is..
Notice how I bet just enough to keep him in the hand. On the river he lands his ace, which he feels compelled to bet, allowing me to check-raise him all-in.
***** Hand History for Game 2430759490 *****
$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, July 27, 00:16:04 EDT 2005
Table Table 48825 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: mikesosdean ( $485.45 )
Seat 5: EvilEcstasy_ ( $303.20 )
Seat 7: RedsFull ( $275.80 )
Seat 10: MRGLEB ( $390 )
Seat 1: marymac123 ( $467.60 )
Seat 3: callit08 ( $369.70 )
Seat 9: Sidestack ( $447.20 )
Seat 6: therick248 ( $441.40 )
Seat 8: DangRiver_AA ( $341 )
Seat 2: catpudge ( $311.40 )
marymac123 posts small blind [$2].
catpudge posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ Qc Qs ]
callit08 folds.
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$14].
therick248 folds.
RedsFull folds.
DangRiver_AA folds.
Sidestack folds.
MRGLEB calls [$14].
marymac123 folds.
catpudge folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, Qh, 2s ]
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$10].
MRGLEB calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$40].
MRGLEB calls [$40].
** Dealing River ** [ Ad ]
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
MRGLEB bets [$60].
EvilEcstasy_ is all-In [$239.20]
MRGLEB calls [$179.20].
MRGLEB shows [ Td, Ac ] a pair of aces.
EvilEcstasy_ shows [ Qc, Qs ] three of a kind, queens.
EvilEcstasy_ wins $609.40 from the main pot with three of a kind, queens.
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jmontis
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2004
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git r done
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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lowBoy
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Nice... I'd be pushing a little harder because of the fear of JT, but I think that could be a silly fear. I think I might be losing out on some sweet dough because of pushing out draws.
Then comes me losing my stack because someone stuck through my pot-sized bets to catch a runner runner straight, with one overcard to my pocket aces.
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Robert Tiltin'
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by lowBoy
Nice... I'd be pushing a little harder because of the fear of JT, but I think that could be a silly fear. I think I might be losing out on some sweet dough because of pushing out draws.
Then comes me losing my stack because someone stuck through my pot-sized bets to catch a runner runner straight, with one overcard to my pocket aces.
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YES! This is one of my biggest problems! On a scary board (1 to a flush, str8) , I'm afraid to NOT overbet. It certainly hurts my ability to extract on good hands. I don't know what it would take for me to be able to relax a little and bet for value instead of deterrents. I'd been burnt too may times in the early years
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BIGandRICH
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07-27-2005, 02:29 PM
Post subject: Re: The Art of Slowplay
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Jazz Club
Posts: 419
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by spino1i
Bigrich was asking for some advice on how to slowplay, so here it is.
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actually i wasnt, but thanks anyway.. its always good to look over hands by good players. And it was useful anyway, to me, and i'm sure to some other players aswell.
Did you actually read my post?? it was having a go at the idiot who complimented me for slowlaying when i was the leading bettor (making full pot bets) on every street...
EDIT: On the matter of perhaps pushing it harder on flush/straight drawing boards.. At microstakes.. yes deffinately. At a higher level its quite different, bet bets wont get paid off as often and you've got to get the value for the hand i think.. With a set, even if the straight or flush hits... 7 outs to FH/quads on turn.. 10 outs for the river.. By the river you hit the FH/quads roughly as often as they hit the flush or OESD anyway. Warning: This is coming from a microstakes player, i have limited expierience at anything higher than .10/.25, Though i do watch it alot
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villain goes AI
i call with a set (i have him owned)
i win pot
villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****
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Zangief
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Massachusetts, USA
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Originally Posted by lowBoy
... with one overcard to my pocket aces.
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Wuh? Did he hold a "B"? I've never heard of an overcard to aces.
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dsaxton
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, VA
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Originally Posted by Zangief
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Originally Posted by lowBoy
... with one overcard to my pocket aces.
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Wuh? Did he hold a "B"?  I've never heard of an overcard to aces.
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Maybe a super ace flopped.
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