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Old 07-21-2009, 07:48 PM     Post subject: AQ vs habitual squeezer #1 (permalink)  
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First time i've played villain, though I do have 800 hands.

Playing 23/18, with a 3b of 6.1 and squeeze of 19. Doesn't look like they get it in thin preflop. Obv that's a pretty wide squeezer. bets line?

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Old 07-21-2009, 07:59 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 raising range for that squeeze % is as bad as QJs, no?


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 Fold if you want to avoid variance can't really 4b without....

Shove. High variance play but he has plenty of shit to fold to make it +EV. I'm too tired to EV calc it but I'm fairly sure its a decently +EV 4b ship.
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He hasn't 4b in 800 and has only 5b one time.

I got mega fold equity, but I'm only gunna get jammed on by worse it seems. What do you think an optimal 3b size is? As calling seems bas and folding is even worse ldo.
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Fold if you want to avoid variance can't really 4b without....

Shove. High variance play but he has plenty of shit to fold to make it +EV. I'm too tired to EV calc it but I'm fairly sure its a decently +EV 4b ship.
Hmm, so folding is ok?

rasing/call>folding>raise/folding>calling?? or what?
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 u mean optimal 4bet size? I'd jack it to like $20 call a shove and/or shove flop.

I think folding is >>>>> calling, but folding doesn't seem smrt.


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I think the 3bet stat is more reliable than the squeeze stat given the sample size. 6% is high especially for the nittier 50nl games but it's not ridiculous, I think a fold is not unreasonable here.

However, I do agree with BB that it seems like a +EV ship. I would prefer to shove than raise/call since I would guess at these stakes you are going to be given a fuckton of credit for any 4bet..

Shove>fold>raise/call>>>>>>>>>>>call
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 folding is never bad here. High squeeze percentages are often derived from players hammering LP steals and calls. You are an EP open and if this player is aware he may well be squeezing a far tighter range.
Calling would be awful.
I prefer 4-betting to $22, and folding to a shove. Now I need to open poker-stove and look at some numbers though.
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Def can't fold to a shove if you put $22 in pot. I think his large squeeze size rules out 4bet/fold as an option oop (in pos we could maybe make a tiny raise but oop he can call too frequently.)
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Def can't fold to a shove if you put $22 in pot. I think his large squeeze size rules out 4bet/fold as an option oop (in pos we could maybe make a tiny raise but oop he can call too frequently.)
shit, i was thinking 100nl for some reason.
Ok, shove/4-bet call or fold then. 4-bet-folding is awful.
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