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Old 10-21-2009, 06:19 AM     Post subject: AQ squeeze in wierd spot oop... #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is xbullyjohnsonx...

I have him at 18/13/4

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, A
3 folds, MP2 calls $1, MP3 bets $5, CO calls $5, 1 fold, Hero raises $20.50, 2 folds, MP3 calls $16, 1 fold

Flop: ($49) 5, 3, 2 (2 players)

Total pot: $49
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:10 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 bet $45 then snap call the shove


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Old 10-21-2009, 03:27 PM #3 (permalink)  
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check/jam is more effective if your stacks are a bit deeper. I probably bet $35, call the shove and hope to hit my gunshot,bdf and overs. Its just consistent with my big overpairs play in these 3 bet spots. c/f with AQ is also another good option cuz villian could slow play QQ+ or shove over with AK if he is spewy or retarded atm.
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Old 10-21-2009, 05:37 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 i'd call this preflop, but if I decided to 3-bet, I wouldn't make 20 dollars and 50 cents. Seems rather Large.



C/f flop, I don't see you having >37.5% equity vs his range, and I don't see him ever folding.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:26 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 The $20.50 is too large, I make it something like $16 or $17 instead.

I think the fact that it is so large though gives weight to villain not having at least KK or AA, because most villains 4bet such huge 3bets with the nuts and get tricky with the smaller 3bets (seldom). Villain folds QQ and less most of the time, including JJ, AQ, AK. At worst we have 7 outs (unless villain turns over AA some of the time, in which case we are fucked, so it's worth taking note) when he shoves over, but at that point we have a +EV call.


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Old 10-21-2009, 07:49 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 Effective stack is $82 on the flop. If we bet, we obv have to call a shove as we will only need something like 24% equity (given we bet $30). However, this doesn't mean the bet is +EV. We have little fold equity against his range, as we expect him to shove AK preflop, and have a range of something like TT+ here. And we simply don't have the needed equity to valuebet against his felting range. C/f seems like the only viable option. And I agree $20.50 is a bit too large of a 3bet. I think $16-$17 is fine here.

I think his range is going to be weighted more towards KK-AA than TT-QQ/AK. This could be wrong, but given how large the pot size is going to be on the flop, if he intends to continue with TT-QQ, especially AK, he should just shove preflop, as they are more vulnerable postflop, and to call preflop to fold on a fair amount of flops just seems gross. Say calling JJ, then seeing a Q/K/A flop, and not being able to call profitably because your pot committed if you do, as well as shoving being gross because you are always crushed when called is uber gay. Especially when the SPR is less than 2.
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Old 10-21-2009, 09:16 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Folks,BDF is worth 1.5 outs 18/13/4 aggressive guys probably 4 bet AK,KK+ the majority of the time. So we are basically up against TT-QQ or another AQs ? Yeah, c/f is always 0EV but i hate to give up after investing whopping $20. b/c might be -EV in this specific spot but also balance our big overpairs in these similar situations.
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I think that the $20.50 re raise was just a lil too much man . other than that I don't think I can say much lol I wouldn't have gotten my self in that mess lol jk .
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