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Old 11-03-2007, 12:23 AM     Post subject: Apparently I suck at poker (eight $100 hands) #1 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($100)
MP1 ($303.15)
MP2 ($83.95)
CO ($107.25)
Button ($19.80)
SB ($122.70)
BB ($100)
UTG ($18)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, A.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, MP2 calls $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, 1 fold, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($16.50) 5, 4, 7 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14, MP2 calls $14, Button folds, BB raises to $50, Hero ...

Hand 2:

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Hero ($105.05)
UTG+1 ($66)
MP1 ($117.60)
MP2 ($217.60)
CO ($148.80)
Button ($113.15)
SB ($64.10)
BB ($50.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, A.
Hero raises to $4, 5 folds, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($9) 4, Q, 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, SB raises to $20, Hero ...

Hand 3:

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UTG+1 ($22.55)
MP1 ($15.50)
MP2 ($98.50)
MP3 ($100.10)
CO ($199.50)
Button ($98.55)
SB ($104.15)
Hero ($150.60)
UTG ($182.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J.
4 folds, MP3 raises to $3, 1 fold, Button calls $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $12, MP3 folds, Button calls $9.

Flop: ($27.50) 9, A, K (2 players)
Hero bets $17, Button calls $17.

Turn: ($61.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $17, Hero calls $17.

River: ($95.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $34, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $95.50

Hand 4:

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UTG ($100)
Hero ($100)
MP1 ($27.90)
MP2 ($111.05)
CO ($18.50)
Button ($461.70)
SB ($112.35)
BB ($122.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, A.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, MP1 calls $4, 4 folds, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) J, 2, 5 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets $5, BB raises to $12, Hero calls ...

Hand 5:

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MP1 ($112.55)
MP2 ($28)
MP3 ($184.50)
CO ($103.15)
Button ($78.35)
SB ($162.15)
Hero ($102.50)
UTG ($113.45)
UTG+1 ($99.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J.
3 folds, MP2 raises to $4, 3 folds, SB calls $3.50, Hero raises to $15, MP2 raises to $26, SB folds, Hero ...

Hand 6:

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Hero ($94.50)
UTG ($18)
UTG+1 ($155.65)
MP1 ($152.40)
MP2 ($159.60)
CO ($24.40)
Button ($35.55)
SB ($146)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2, A.
6 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $4.

Flop: ($10) 8, A, K (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($14) J (2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero calls $8.

River: ($30) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $13, Hero calls $13.

Final Pot: $56

Hand 7:

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MP2 ($35.75)
MP3 ($170.20)
CO ($130.65)
Hero ($106.30)
SB ($62.45)
BB ($72.85)
UTG ($108)
UTG+1 ($90)
MP1 ($104.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, 9.
3 folds, MP2 calls $1, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) 6, 5, 3 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 bets $3.25, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $10, SB folds, BB folds, MP2 calls $6.75.

Turn: ($25) 6 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($25) 7 (2 players)
MP2 bets $11.5, Hero calls $11.50.

Final Pot: $48

Hand 8:

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UTG ($113.95)
UTG+1 ($53.45)
MP1 ($172.50)
MP2 ($103.15)
MP3 ($88.75)
CO ($155.65)
Hero ($98)
SB ($120.65)
BB ($97.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T, T.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 4 folds, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 3, 7, J (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $9, UTG+1 calls $9.

Turn: ($29.50) 2 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($29.50) 4 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $7, Hero calls $7.

Final Pot: $43.50


I'm playing like shit lately and my confidence is shot all to hell so I'm just posting every hand today where I lost 20bb or more (except for one AA < 85s aipf for 30bbs hehe) plus a couple others like the AA hand.

Feel free to chew me out over anything in these hands, I need it terribly.
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Rule # 1: don't ask questions

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I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:52 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 1. Fold
2. Fold
3. Fold turn, probably dont even spew flop.
4. Much more delicate, id like to see a turn unless opp doesnt raise a pair.
5. Not sure if i like preflop, unless we squeeze here lots. What do we know about him before i commit to a fold preflop...
6. Raise flop check turn call river NH GG.
7. Have to b/f turn IMO.
8. Bet turn, he missed this board as much as you and folds to 2nd barel which you need to fire to steal pots with AK/AQ etc here as well as 77-99 range hands you also raise in this situation.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:58 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 doh, 5 is a call, but not this fist-pumping business type call however.
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:16 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1 fold and curse
Hand 2 I'm allin
Hand 3 Fold
Hand 4 Why didn't you bet the flop
Hand 5 Call
Hand 6 Played OK, now call
Hand 7 Fold river or bet/fold turn
Hand 8 Played fine
 
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:26 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Hand 4 Why didn't you bet the flop
Figured BB didn't hit the flop and the short stack behind me would probably bet.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.

Rule # 1: don't ask questions

Rule # 2: don't ask questions

I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:30 AM #6 (permalink)  

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At a glance,

1) Fold it, 4 people in the pot, the fourth of which was priced in and that board is at least in the 2 pair, set, straight or combo draw range, all of which are unfavorable.

2) Either push or call and decide whether or not to push the turn, if he flat called with 4/6 and hit the nuts, so be it, but it feels like he's protecting a Flush/Straight draw or at worst has a monster draw. I could see some one with KQ there, and I doubt some one would re-raise with a set in that position when he could get 2 more street of value out of it. If he's clever, he's just checking for the AK CBet, in which case he's giving up after a call.

3) Check/Fold, 2 flat calls is well within AX range.

4) Calling there is awful, either push it or get off of it. At a guess MP1 is betting with a PP that missed and the BB has a Jack. If you let the Queen or King hit the board, you're forced to fold any way, so make a decision now.

5) Calling there is awful, he either has you dominated or he's 4Beting AK in position. Gamble or go home, but don't let him have position and the initiative with AK, because you're either go to risk more chips after the flop or forfeit the hand.

6) Re-raise the flop.

7) Bet the turn.

8) Did you get slow played by Aces, a Set, BDFDed or Wheeled? You have to bet the turn there just to price out the drawing hands and sniff out the Aces or the Set.
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All these hands are so much easier to play 50bb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:56 AM #8 (permalink)  
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All these hands are so much easier to play 50bb
It makes no difference in hand 5 BOOYA
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.

Rule # 1: don't ask questions

Rule # 2: don't ask questions

I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
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Old 11-03-2007, 03:56 PM #9 (permalink)  
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any read whatsoever would be helpful, also how are you playing
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any read whatsoever would be helpful, also how are you playing
When a bunch of hands are posted after a session it's hard to give you this info.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.

Rule # 1: don't ask questions

Rule # 2: don't ask questions

I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:47 PM #11 (permalink)  
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 Why wouldn't he lead a set on that board in hand 1?
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:52 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Why wouldn't he lead a set on that board in hand 1?
we.re in ep and will bet this flop always.
A c/r puts a whole lot more pressure on our range on this flop than a lead does.
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Hand 2 I'm allin
This interests me. Care to explain? Is it just cuz there are draws possible and 2 pair is unlikely? Anyone else shove?

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5) Calling there is awful, he either has you dominated or he's 4Beting AK in position. Gamble or go home, but don't let him have position and the initiative with AK, because you're either go to risk more chips after the flop or forfeit the hand.
mp2 only has $28
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:44 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Why wouldn't he lead a set on that board in hand 1?
we.re in ep and will bet this flop always.
A c/r puts a whole lot more pressure on our range on this flop than a lead does.
I may/may not bet that flop with AA.
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 In hand 2 he only has $40 left after the checkraise, and we are only losing to 2 hands. His range is more geared toward QJ/KQ, 77-JJ or air (the latter two less likely). Calling flop and calling turn shove may be better to induce a turn bet with 2nd bet/bluff. Also we gotz the A of dimon.
 
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Hand 2 I'm allin
This interests me. Care to explain? Is it just cuz there are draws possible and 2 pair is unlikely? Anyone else shove?

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5) Calling there is awful, he either has you dominated or he's 4Beting AK in position. Gamble or go home, but don't let him have position and the initiative with AK, because you're either go to risk more chips after the flop or forfeit the hand.
mp2 only has $28
Exactly, either commit yourself entirely to the hand or don't play it at all. You shouldn't even give yourself a chance to consider pulling out after the flop for 28$. You may as well see if he's willing to fold the hand before the flop at that rate.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:50 PM #17 (permalink)  
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any read whatsoever would be helpful, also how are you playing
When a bunch of hands are posted after a session it's hard to give you this info.
I suggest keeping a single Notepad document open while playing.. and any interesting pot, quickly copy and paste the HH with a brief note about the player's stats or tendencies and move on. Much easier to review.

Maybe a bit of a ghey reality check...
Also I think you should find it troubling that after crushing $100NL for a time.. then reporting in Community that you are bored while 12-tabling and you are looking for other things to do other than watching movies, surfing, etc. That you are now posting a thread with notes like "I'm playing like shit lately and my confidence is shot all to hell"... all the while continue to report HHs without any reads on your opponents whatsoever. Do you think these things might be connected?... or is this simply variance?
So you click their picture and then you get their money?
 
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any read whatsoever would be helpful, also how are you playing
When a bunch of hands are posted after a session it's hard to give you this info.
I suggest keeping a single Notepad document open while playing.. and any interesting pot, quickly copy and paste the HH with a brief note about the player's stats or tendencies and move on. Much easier to review.

Maybe a bit of a ghey reality check...
Also I think you should find it troubling that after crushing $100NL for a time.. then reporting in Community that you are bored while 12-tabling and you are looking for other things to do other than watching movies, surfing, etc. That you are now posting a thread with notes like "I'm playing like shit lately and my confidence is shot all to hell"... all the while continue to report HHs without any reads on your opponents whatsoever. Do you think these things might be connected?... or is this simply variance?
I haven't been crushing 100nl, and I pretty much suck at poker anyway, but my confidence was shot b/c of a downswing.

Obviously I don't pay as much attention as I arguably should, but it's hard to plan ahead for posting hands that I don't even know I'm going to post yet.

Also, I do tend to give HHs with reads, or at least some form of stats.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.

Rule # 1: don't ask questions

Rule # 2: don't ask questions

I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:24 AM #19 (permalink)  
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Blasted stars...they always seem to have the set.
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Blasted stars...they always seem to have the set.
Hehe.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.

Rule # 1: don't ask questions

Rule # 2: don't ask questions

I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
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Hand 1: This is a fairly easy fold based on how many people in the hand with you combined with an all rag (set friendly) board. This could be compounded by who is making the raise.

Hand 2: You are re-raising, and playing for stacks here, unless sb is a very tight opponent who doesn't semi bluff a lot, and seeks cheap showdowns with hands like KQ that hit a pair. You have to consider a wide air range from a lot of opponents, because of positioning, and a live draw board.

Hand 3: Well played, but I think you can check raise all in sometimes on this turn and have enough equity.

Hand 4: Bet the flop straight out, play accordingly. Your hand is vulnerable, and players at this level aren't good enough to get tricky with. Fancy lines are weak lines against non thinking opponents.

Hand 5: Play for his stack. This is basic stuff. His wider shorty range mixed with the fact that he can only take 1/4th a buy in from you is reason enough to continue with one of the top hands in hold em.

Hand 6: Raise the flop, and the entire hand changes.

Hand 7: Raise preflop, and the entire hand changes. You're not being aggressive enough early in hands.

Hand 8: Well played.
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