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dalecooper

03-03-2005, 01:41 PM Post subject: Another hypothetical

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***** Hand History for Game 1677920044 *****
$50 NL Hold'em - Thursday, March 03, 09:36:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 36947 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: nuocmamsoup ( $97.4 )
Seat 9: mycoli ( $63.3 )
Seat 2: stressball10 ( $73.1 )
Seat 10: Rorbak ( $30.95 )
Seat 8: scooter_88 ( $53.35 )
Seat 1: walkwalk ( $56.55 )
Seat 6: galaxypro ( $98.4 )
Seat 3: F4Fingers ( $19.15 )
Seat 5: razzkin ( $50.8 )
Seat 7: ZiZaZzIzA412 ( $28 )
F4Fingers posts small blind [$0.25].
nuocmamsoup posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to stressball10 [ Jh Ts ]
razzkin folds.
galaxypro folds.
ZiZaZzIzA412 folds.
scooter_88 folds.
mycoli folds.
Rorbak folds.
walkwalk calls [$0.5].
stressball10 calls [$0.5].
F4Fingers calls [$0.25].
nuocmamsoup checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, 7s, 7c ]
F4Fingers checks.
nuocmamsoup checks.
walkwalk checks.
stressball10 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
F4Fingers checks.
nuocmamsoup checks.
walkwalk checks.
stressball10 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
F4Fingers bets [$1].
nuocmamsoup folds.
walkwalk folds.
stressball10 raises [$3].
F4Fingers raises [$5].

Call or raise here? (I don't see folding as a valid option unless you're just ridiculously tight.)

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SteveO

03-03-2005, 02:12 PM

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Opponent was in SB and could have anything. I would rule out the Q7 but maybe filled up with something like 87 or 97. When the board is paired and connecting, I always think that FH is more likely b/c someone with the OESD or suited connectors could have just got lucky. So just flat call the river.

If you were up against a maniac, I would re-raise. However, in this situation the opponent does not look crazy and played very passively until the river. You may very well have the best hand but you also may have riverd a lovely second best so it is not worth your stack to find out.

Final thought: a reraise also opens the door for him to steal the pot. What if you both have the same hand and he comes over the top AI? You would almost have to fold to the AI and then he steals 1/2 your pot.

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72bluffer

03-03-2005, 02:22 PM

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I put him on A8 or A9. I would reaise. I think he thinks that since every limped in and check the flop and turn his 2 pair with the kicker is golden. IMO opinon the worst that would hapen is he is on 10 J and your split the pot.

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BigmacAg

03-03-2005, 05:41 PM

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I think he has a 7 and was slowplaying. Sees you as trying to buy the pot and raises with his hand. I would re-raise to about $8-$10.

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dalecooper

03-03-2005, 05:56 PM

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Actual hand: I called, he showed down T6o for the rivered lower straight, and I won.

Personal opinion: I like just calling here - his raise isn't that much and I feel comfortable playing the hand I've got for those pot odds. I'm not sure if raising him here is a money-making move in the long run or not. If I have the better hand (meaning he has basically nothing, probably just a pair to the board) he'll fold to my re-raise anyway. If he made a boat the raise just costs me - although from the way he played the hand, I didn't suspect a boat. The scenario where he has an actual good hand that is worse than mine (i.e. T6o) is unlikely enough that I think just calling is fine here.

BigmacAg

03-03-2005, 06:19 PM

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I think he has a 7 and was slowplaying. Sees you as trying to buy the pot and raises with his hand. I would re-raise to about $8-$10.

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