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11-05-2007, 05:53 AM
Post subject: Another hand vs Fnord
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($330.90)
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SB has :Qh: :Td:
Fnord is BB
You're playing lots of tables probably around 15/10 meow chow or so.
Preflop:
6 folds, SB raises to $8, BB calls $6.
Flop: ($16)  ,  ,  (2 players)
SB bets $10, BB calls $10.
Turn: ($36)  (2 players)
SB checks, BB checks.
River: ($36)  (2 players)
SB bets $26, BB raises to $77.75 (all-in)
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Renton
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well i'd bet the turn, but as played i would give you credit for something the first time and fold. What are my hud stats on fnord.
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17/12/2.35
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bigspenda73
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what could Fnord ever shove here that we beat? 66/77? Would Fnord turn those into bluffs here?
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fnord knows we hold a semi-weak one-pair hand that can´t make this call, right?
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Originally Posted by bigred
xtr stand for exotic tranny retards
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I'd probably hero call.
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
what could Fnord ever shove here that we beat? 66/77? Would Fnord turn those into bluffs here?
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What's my range here?
Also, if I was just another "unknown" short-buy how long does it take you to hit the call button?
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66-88, T8, air
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Originally Posted by bigred
xtr stand for exotic tranny retards
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Renton
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well, given the paired board and blind vs blind, i'd give serious consideration to calling this. However, vs you i'd think you wouldn't bluff in a spot like this and i'd fold the first time.
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I really like the way I played this now.
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He should never call here, his hand isn't underrepped and fnord should no he's not thin vbetting.
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Fnord knows that we know so he can bluff the ho ho.
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Admittedly, I'm not sure this play is in my bag at $25NL. But I like it where people can fold more often.
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"Been gone so long, forgot how to poker"
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Our hand isnt underrepped and fnord is a good hand reader. However opp is going to think he's a half stack donk who has no idea so he has no intention of folding his hand which should make it an easy fold versus this opponent.
However, fnord can probably also trun a showdownable hand into a bluff so id lean toward a call but im certainly not thinking folding is wek.
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Hero called, Fnord had Aces.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Hero called, Fnord had Aces.
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fnord plays goot.
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bigspenda73
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against a 50bb stack is QTo even an open?
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against a 50bb stack is QTo even an open?
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Nit
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
against a 50bb stack is QTo even an open?
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wow, and fnord calls me a nit!!!
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
against a 50bb stack is QTo even an open?
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lol its probably even more of an open because of the shallower stacks
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bigspenda73
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
against a 50bb stack is QTo even an open?
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lol its probably even more of an open because of the shallower stacks |
Now I understand how more speculative hands can go up in value with deeper stacks but how does QTo go up in value with shallower stacks? Showdown value, meh, high-card strength, meh meh.
Whatevs, Im the king of zero variance, so yea, I'm prolly a nit, fuck it, I like 45 degree angle graphs.
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QT flops top pair a lot and therefore plays very well vs 50bb. Its basically as simple as that. Also, with QT you can make very plus ev flop plays on A, K, Q, or T flops, and on flops with J, you usually have a gutshot or something.
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