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dalecooper
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05-02-2005, 07:17 PM
Post subject: Another call or fold scenario
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4-of-a-Kind
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This one just happened to me in a full ring game. I get 23 suited in the small blind. A couple of limpers as it comes around to me; I complete, big blind checks, and four see the flop.
The flop is AK4 with two hearts, giving me a flush draw and a gutshot. Big blind min-bets, one caller ahead of me, and I call.
Turn is an offsuit 5, so I hit my straight to give me the current nuts. I check, big blind min-bets, last guy calls again. I check-raise 3x the original bet (from 25 cents to $1). Both players call.
River is an offsuit 10, making the nut hand JQ. I have second nuts; nothing but JQ beats me. I bet 2/3 of the pot ($3); second player folds; last player raises all-in for about $10 more. Call to me is $10 on an $18 pot.
Call or fold?
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sykotik489
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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I'm pretty sure I call that. There is at least a decent chance he was chasing the flush and missed. a better chance at two pair. Also if he chased the straight all the way to the river I (don't want to but still do) pay it off. I think my hand is good the way it played. A read on the guy would help though.
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Greedo017
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: wearing the honors of honor and whatnot
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call
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i betcha that i got something you ain't got, that's called courage, it don't come from no liquor bottle, it ain't scotch
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H Dogg
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Fairfax, VA
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call, why would he hold JQ that long? If he did, he's a moron.
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ensign_lee
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The University of TEXAS at Austin
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Call. I hesitate to say that there's NO WAY he held JQ; who knows? it could have been of hearts.
But I still call with second nuts here.
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Theeggman
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 363
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If he was chasing the nut str8 he deserves a win for all the times he loses money by chasing it. Many people at these tables will raise any paint pf. I call.
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I'll be a rootin' tootin' shootin' damn fool, protectin' my chips.
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dalecooper
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4-of-a-Kind
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Post-hand self-analysis:
I don't mind calling here but I wish it was less expensive. As soon as he raised all in I could only put him on JQ - and despite how horribly he played the hand, it was certainly possible for a bad player to have that. I did eventually call, and he did have JQ. I don't know if the moral here is "trust your instincts" or "raise bigger, even with the current nuts" or what. Anyway, I hope his luck is a little different the next time I run into him.
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Theeggman
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SoCal
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Nice suspense though. I can't believe he had JQ, he got about 2:1 odds on the turn for his gutshot str8 draw? Find him again.
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I'll be a rootin' tootin' shootin' damn fool, protectin' my chips.
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