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MNMP2

04-05-2006, 07:31 AM Post subject: Another 100NL hand argghhh

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Another hand. I am posting these because I dont know if it just my play/betting causing this, or am I just on a really bad run right now. Cant seem to do anything right at all.

I have a read on villain here - he is loose passive (fishy), raising 6xbb with any PP down to 22 and any 2 paint cards. If he hits the flop, he re-raises big, and usually just goes all in if he hits trips. Figured on this flop, with the way he reacted to my bet that I had him beat. I was worried about any big cards coming that he could pair up and so I wasnt thinking about the strt.

How could I have played this differently?

No Limit $0.50/$1
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Hand Start.
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 1 : Prophet6 has $85.50
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 2 : david050 has $39.75
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 3 : car pen ter has $12.25
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 4 : sol sixa has $57.50
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 5 : bb100 has $99.25
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 6 : dontjump has $183
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 7 : babayaga has $82
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 8 : SKIJACK has $187.75
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : Seat 9 : TwistedOne has $86
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : babayaga is the dealer.
[Apr 5 00:07:36] : SKIJACK posted small blind.
[Apr 5 00:07:37] : TwistedOne posted big blind.
[Apr 5 00:07:37] : Game [8079] started with 9 players.
[Apr 5 00:07:37] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Apr 5 00:07:37] : Seat 1 : Prophet6 has 8s 8c
[Apr 5 00:07:39] : Prophet6 called $1
[Apr 5 00:07:40] : david050 folded.
[Apr 5 00:07:44] : car pen ter folded.
[Apr 5 00:07:45] : sol sixa called $1
[Apr 5 00:08:14] : bb100 has 10 seconds to respond.
[Apr 5 00:08:15] : bb100 folded.
[Apr 5 00:08:20] : dontjump called $1 and raised $5
[Apr 5 00:08:20] : babayaga folded.
[Apr 5 00:08:22] : SKIJACK folded.
[Apr 5 00:08:24] : TwistedOne folded.
[Apr 5 00:08:26] : Prophet6 called $5
[Apr 5 00:08:27] : sol sixa called $5
[Apr 5 00:08:27] : Dealing flop.
[Apr 5 00:08:27] : Board cards [Qc 2s 5d]
[Apr 5 00:08:33] : Prophet6 bet $4
[Apr 5 00:08:35] : sol sixa folded.
[Apr 5 00:08:37] : dontjump called $4
[Apr 5 00:08:38] : Dealing turn.
[Apr 5 00:08:38] : Board cards [Qc 2s 5d 4h]
[Apr 5 00:08:42] : Prophet6 bet $6
[Apr 5 00:08:45] : dontjump called $6
[Apr 5 00:08:46] : Dealing river.
[Apr 5 00:08:46] : Board cards [Qc 2s 5d 4h 3s]
[Apr 5 00:08:51] : Prophet6 bet $9
[Apr 5 00:08:53] : dontjump called $9
[Apr 5 00:08:53] : Showdown!
[Apr 5 00:08:53] : Seat 1 : Prophet6 has 8s 8c
[Apr 5 00:08:55] : Seat 1 : Prophet6 has 8s 8c
[Apr 5 00:08:56] : Prophet6 has Pair: 8s
[Apr 5 00:08:56] : Seat 6 : dontjump has Jd Ad
[Apr 5 00:08:56] : dontjump has Straight 5432A
[Apr 5 00:08:56] : dontjump wins $54.75 with Straight 5432A
[Apr 5 00:09:05] : Hand is over.

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BankItDrew

04-05-2006, 08:17 AM

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check/fold that river. if u bet, u will only get called by a hand that beats you. if they have been calling with a pair higher than 88 or a Q in hand or even on a straight draw, your beat.

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BankItDrew

04-05-2006, 08:17 AM

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*double post*
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jackvance

04-05-2006, 10:52 AM

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Pot is $15. Betting $4 really is saying: "Ok guys, I got nothing." (got this from a friend of mine who beats 100NL)

Sarcasm is your body's natural defense against stupidity

sejje

04-05-2006, 02:09 PM

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I bet the flop harder than that with any two after I raise preflop.

Agree with check/folding the river. Any hand you beat is going to check behind. Lots of hands call.

Renton

04-05-2006, 03:02 PM

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check fold flop

I don't mess around with second pair in a three way full ring raised pot.

Sure, your read was correct and you were ahead this time, but most of the time it just isn't, and you just aren't.

sejje

04-05-2006, 04:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

check fold flop

I don't mess around with second pair in a three way full ring raised pot.

Seriously? Don't you cbet AK high on this flop?

I bet this one every time.

Rondavu

04-05-2006, 04:41 PM

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Why you bet into a river that wheels any ace is beyond me. One of the easiest laydowns IMO against someone who chases overcards.

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Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.

Renton

04-05-2006, 04:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sejje

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

check fold flop

I don't mess around with second pair in a three way full ring raised pot.

Seriously? Don't you cbet AK high on this flop?

Not OOP three ways.

Heads up or in position, I bet out every time, but when I limp a pair OOP I am looking to hit a set and that is all.

MNMP2

04-06-2006, 01:24 AM

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Rondavu, you are right, I should seen the Ax beating me here.

The reason I bet the flop was actually to save money in that I KNEW that if he hit that Q or had overpair he would re-raise, because thats what this guy was doing all night. So I figure the flop bet would tell me if he hit that Q or a set there.

Now after reading some responses, I am thinking a bet of about $8-$10 on that flop and then check it down the rest of the way if hea calls that.

Shoulda seen that straight........

freechus9

04-06-2006, 01:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MNMP2

Problem with that is if I saw you bet 4 dollars in to a 15 dollar pot I'd raise you with any 2 because you'd fold for the precise reason you said you would.

My sig is too much for you to handle.

MNMP2

04-06-2006, 01:37 AM

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Would you do that if I bet $10 on that flop?

But this guy I KNEW would not reraise ANY flop bet if he didnt have TP or hit a set. I have the read on this particular player.

But I'd still ike to know what you would have done if I bet $10

drmcboy

04-06-2006, 02:33 AM

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I'm not sure what else to say beyond move down a limit. Not seeing 2345 on the board is not OK. If you can't read the board, 50NL still has plenty you can learn. I'm trying not to be harsh, I feel bad that you're throwing money away.

MNMP2

04-06-2006, 02:45 AM

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I think my game is just off right now, with missing that strt. It was late and I was just ending my session when this hand came up - I probably should have stopped a 1/2 hour earlier.

When I started this little losing streak, I moved down to $50. Played for an hour and a half, won $106.00. bb/100 was 118 in PT - lol.

I have killed 50nl, thats how I built most of my bankroll. I am determined to get my head straight, my game in order and play this level.

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