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10-21-2006, 12:54 AM Post subject: Anosmic v Biondino v Sklansky

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Biondino was complaining that he was having some bad luck on the £50 tables last night so I thought I'd go along and cash in, ahem, I mean lend him moral support.

This is what he defines as bad luck:

Hand 1:

No Limit Hold'em CryptoLogic (£50NL)
Converted by FTRConv
6-handed

StacksUTG: £53.52
UTG+1: £55.85
Biondino: £83.75
Anosmic: £24.09 (just lost half-stack to a shortie, re-buy-in is still pending)
SB: £116.70
BB: £16.09

Pre-Flop:
Anosmic is BTN with T

Biondino is CO with 5

UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Biondino calls, Anosmic calls, SB folds, BB checks

Flop:(£2.75) K

(5 players)

Code:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2138764
pokenum  -h kd td  - 5s 3s  -- kh 5d 3d 
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 5d 3d Kh
cards  win   %win  lose  %lose  tie  %tie     EV
Kd Td  504  50.91   486  49.09    0  0.00  0.509
5s 3s  486  49.09   504  50.91    0  0.00  0.491

BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets £0.50, Biondino raises to £3, Anosmic raises to £12, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Biondino raises to £83.25 and is all-in, Anosmic is all-in £11.59

Turn:(£53.43) 6

(2 players)

River:(£53.43) J

(2 players)

Final Pot: £53.43

Hand 2
No Limit Hold'em CryptoLogic (£50NL)
Converted by FTRConv
5-handed

StacksSB: £51.70
BB: £50.70
Anosmic: £49.55
CO: £50.40
Biondino: £38.80

Pre-Flop: Anosmic is UTG with A

Biondino is BTN with 9

Anosmic raises to £2, CO folds, Biondino calls, SB folds, BB calls

Flop:(£6.25) 8

(3 players)

Code:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2138790
pokenum  -h as kc  - 9d 8d  -- 8s js 2s 
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Js 8s 2s
cards  win   %win  lose  %lose  tie  %tie     EV
As Kc  510  51.52   480  48.48    0  0.00  0.515
9d 8d  480  48.48   510  51.52    0  0.00  0.485

BB checks, Anosmic bets £3, Biondino raises to £6, BB folds, Anosmic calls

Turn:(£18.25) 2

(2 players)
Anosmic checks, Biondino bets £10, Anosmic calls

River:(£38.25) 7

(2 players)
Anosmic checks, Biondino checks

Final Pot: £38.25

Okay, other than that his "bad luck" ain't so bad, we've been having a lot of fun analysing these hands. Where are there "mistakes" (both in terms of 'what should I play here?' and 'theorem of poker' kinds).

For instance I'm saying that according to the theorem of poker I call the following mistakes:

1) Biondino should not push the flop in 1.
2) Biondino should call not re-raise the flop in 2.
3) Anosmic should raise, not call the flop in 2.
4) Biondino should bet more on the turn in 2.
5) Biondino should bet the river on 2 (but in "reality" that would probably be dumb)

I'd usually raise KTs on the button, but there's a few reasons I didn't. Partly because I thought I could play KT multiway with all the limpers and secondly I'd just got KTo the previous hand, raised and got two callers (including A4o who calls x44 flop and checks behind on a A turn... before nailing me on the K river) so I thought I'd leave raising/c-betting to a better hand with this gang.

It's interesting to note that Biondino put some real thought into some tricky sized bets. Giving a bad re-raise in 1, betting a "callable" amount on the turn in 2. Both designed to psych me.

I on the other hand just went "What a crappy flop bet, he's been playing crypto donks too long, well I'm sure I'm 50% or more here, and have some good odds even against a set, so lets bet".
And on the turn "hmm... I don't see this being a boat, he's not bet enough I've got the odds here".

See Biondino was trying to outsmart me, whereas I outdumbed him

He forgets sometimes that I'm not as good a player as he is...

Well, this what we've been arguing about, especially how it relates to the Theorem of Poker (which we probably both don't quite get right) so we'd be interested in hearing what others think.

Blah blah Op Blah blah

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Miffed22001

10-21-2006, 01:59 AM

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id stack off on the turn in hand1 and bet £10-15 on the turn in hand 2 after calling on the flop or raise any turn bet you might make.

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