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eugmac
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01-30-2008, 08:29 AM
Post subject: Analyze my PF play for 25NL
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Full House
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After 2300 hands since starting at a new site I'm running VPIP16%/PFR8% at 25NL full-ring. I know it's a small sample but it gives you an idea of how I play preflop. I've cut open-limping out of my game apart from 22-66. In theory this is extremely exploitable right? I basically only 3-bet with QQ+, AK about 50% of the time, and vs the right opponent JJ/TT. I've been raising a bit more when I'm in on the button vs 1 loose limper with marginal hands like A8o, K9s, etc.
I tend to limp behind with all pairs under Jacks if there are 2+ limpers (maybe raise with TT vs 2 limpers about 50% of the time in position). I'll also limp behind in these spots with decent suited connectors (89s) and suited aces.
Please help me plug leaks, thanks!
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BankItDrew
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sounds exactly like me so i can't help sorry
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HeAVyB101
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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I also play NL$25. My first 5k hands or so I was playing pretty much the same way you are. I have noticed though that calling SUCKS!!!! I have changed my game to be the one raising in the hands. If I have a good hand and someone raises infront of me preflop, I am reraising them for sure. Multiple good things come from this.
1. You are taking control of the hand. Once you do this your opponents start to think you are way ahead of them. From what I have noticed the majority of the time they will fold preflop. If they call you know they have a decent hand and want to see a flop. If they reraise, you know they most likely have a premium hand and don't want you to see a flop.
2. Once your opponents notice you are one of the more aggressive players at the table they will be cautious when fighting for a pot with you. A couple different things can happen here... Either the players start tightening up against you, or loosen up against you. You can then change your approach depending on how the villain(s) act.
3. Lastly, when you raise a lot you will have more variance. Yes this is bad but... you always know where you stand in the hand. It's cheaper to miss your hand and raise to see where you stand, than to check and wonder if you should call that pot sized bet by villain.
This is definitely a Brunson style of play. I'm not saying you should raise and reraise every friggin hand. Some hands obviously play better in multiway pots. But your good hands you need to isolate the players down to 1 or 2. I can go on about this forever but this is just a brief description for what it's worth.
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swiggidy
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At 25NL it doesn't matter a whole lot what you do. If you're playing loose/agro you need to be ready to tighten up or leave if it's not right for the table/day. If you can't recognize this then lagging isn't a good idea.
eug, your biggest leak is that you're a nit, possibly a bot.
Put in hands, get to 50NL, if you're not winning there or happy with your rate re-evaluate.
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FlyingSaucy
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Awesome. I have never known bots to write posts requesting feedback on their play.
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eugmac
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
At 25NL it doesn't matter a whole lot what you do. If you're playing loose/agro you need to be ready to tighten up or leave if it's not right for the table/day. If you can't recognize this then lagging isn't a good idea.
eug, your biggest leak is that you're a nit, possibly a bot.
Put in hands, get to 50NL, if you're not winning there or happy with your rate re-evaluate.
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All I posted were general trends on my play PF. No post-flop info whatsoever. So... how can you tell what a nit I am?
I'm not posting this 'cause I'm not winning - I certainly am. Just doing a sanity checkup to make sure I'm not still making some basic PF errors.
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BankItDrew
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by FlyingSaucy
Awesome. I have never known bots to write posts requesting feedback on their play.
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I am also programed to browse YouTube.
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eugmac
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew
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Originally Posted by FlyingSaucy
Awesome. I have never known bots to write posts requesting feedback on their play.
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I am also programed to browse YouTube.
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See, but you're obv a bot. I'm a banana.
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