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09-08-2005, 05:55 PM Post subject: Am i working this out right?

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I had only played like 6 hands or something so no specific reads, other than the guys minraise = hands like Kq QJs etc
Also take it easy this is my first hand history

Stage #183639980: Holdem No Limit $1 [ 2005-09-08 12:38:19 ]
Seat 7 - JUC1219 $72 in chips
Seat 8 - ROYALSLIM $249.55 in chips
Seat 9 - EVILSQUIRREL $92.85 in chips
Seat 1 - KJEKKEN $147.35 in chips
Seat 2 - AUNTIE EM $184 in chips
Seat 3 - CMWKINGS $53 in chips
Seat 4 - MJWILKS2000 $77.64 in chips
Seat 5 - GSKIN $68 in chips
Seat 6 - BEARING $77.20 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 7] ***
ROYALSLIM - Post small blind $1
EVILSQUIRREL - Post big blind $2
BEARING - Pocket [Ah,Kh]
KJEKKEN - Calls $2
AUNTIE EM - Folds
CMWKINGS - Folds
MJWILKS2000 - Raises $2 to $4
GSKIN - Folds
BEARING - Raises $4 to $8
JUC1219 - Folds
ROYALSLIM - Calls $7
EVILSQUIRREL - Folds
KJEKKEN - Calls $6
MJWILKS2000 - Calls $4
*** FLOP [Qh,Kc,2h] *** << Ok im thinking Sweet lord its christmas!
ROYALSLIM - Checks
KJEKKEN - Checks
MJWILKS2000 - Bets $8
BEARING - Raises $8 to $22 <Bigger bet needed?
ROYALSLIM - Calls $22 < Only a call = weak/draw/slowplay (in every case i win if i hit anyway..
KJEKKEN - Folds
MJWILKS2000 - Calls $14 <<Only a call = weak.. or a trap, but i dont think so since a set or two pair is vulnerable to straights and flushes*** TURN [Qh,Kc,2h,Js] ***
ROYALSLIM - Checks
MJWILKS2000 - Bets $47 << Ahh nooo, he's hit something
BEARING - Calls $47 << Ok im not sure about this call from me
ROYALSLIM - Raises $47 to $94
MJWILKS2000 - All-In $0.64
BEARING - All-In $0.20
ROYALSLIM - returned ($46.36) : not called
*** RIVER [Qh,Kc,2h,Js,3d] ***
MJWILKS2000 - Show cards [Jh,Qc]
BEARING - Show cards [Ah,Kh]
ROYALSLIM - Show cards [As,Ks]
*** RESULT ***
Total Pot($242.48:$241.60,$0.88) Rake ($3)
Board [Qh,Kc,2h,Js,3d]

I didnt care about trips or 2 pairs here at all since i have the flush and straight draws so i didnt give much thought to what he had anyway.. The worst case scenario might have been A10 removing one of my outs and meaning i'll split when it does come..
Ok so my thinking is that after the flop bets i think there was $96 or so in the pot, and so when he bets 47 thats like 1/2 meaning i have to pay 1/4 of the pot. My flush draw + gutshot (ignoring 2 pair and 3 of a kind outs for now) gives me 12 outs *2 + 1 = 25% to win yeh ?
Also the flop raise was enough to keep him in the hand yet make him pay at the same time and i thought it was ok...
Oops it kinda seems that IM sure that my call was all good, now that i've written it all out and calculated it, i started off worrying about it but now i feel better!! Could you guys give me your opinions on the hand anyway to confirm that im doing these pot odd thingies right and all the rest of it.. ty

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09-08-2005, 08:03 PM

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When the turn comes down you are 9 outs to make the nut flush, 2 outs to make top set, and 3 outs (the Th already included in flush outs) to make the nut strait. So 14 outs out of 46 cards you don't know about = 2.3:1 or so against you...Do you think if you hit any one of those outs you will have the best hand? I think so. I didn't include other aces as outs giving you top two pair, because it makes a strait for anyone holding a T (9Th, Tjh, some other hands could be hanging around with tens).

So you're geting 2.3:1 on the turn call which puts you all in. 143$ are in the pot once villain bets the 47$, its' 47$ to you to call. Thats a little over 3:1 *even if the other opp doesn't call... which here he does giving you really really good odds on your call*

I don't think you have the best hand here with TPTK but the amount of money in the pot dictates a call here if you think your outs are clean.

As for your play up to this point...When 3 people see teh flop with you after a strong pre flop raise, it's scary to play the flop. A pot sized bet is all of a sudden 15BB and it's hard to know how to continue. Here you flopped TPTK and the nut flush draw...I think a serious bet is in order. 40$ to go on the flop then push the turn because you'll still have some fold equity and might even have the best hand if its a blank. If it's a heart maybe a check raise hoping the guy called your flop bet on the flush draw, or will try to represent it if you check

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