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dev
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03-09-2008, 09:25 PM
Post subject: Am I nuts for folding this?
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v is 24/1/2 over 100 hands
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
Hero ($29)
MP2 ($23.65)
CO ($35.35)
Button ($27.75)
SB ($25)
BB ($25)
UTG ($33.50)
UTG+1 ($15.75)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with  ,  .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, CO raises to $3.75, 3 folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $2.60
Results in white below:
No showdown. CO wins $2.60.
I figure the worst hand he has is AK. We're both pretty deep and this is a nightmare after the flop. Is 100 hands enough to give the guy this much credit?
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mrhappy333
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wow, I woulda at least called this bet. Hit your Queen and Profit!
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3 3 3 I'm only half evil.
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dev
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I swear I'm not really this much of a nit, I'm running 18.6/15.7/4 over 4k hands at 25nl so far.
The thing is, I'm oop and I really don't know whether this is AA, KK, QQ, or AK. AK is the most likely, but it doesn't pay off on a Q-high board.
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mrhappy333
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Let me explain, First I woulda raised preflop to a little more. maybe 1.50, Then you need to put your Villain on a range. I would call the reraise, as he is in the CO, This is a good spot for someone to reraise. Since I put the villain on a range of hands, when the flop comes out you will be have a Plan as to how you are playing your hand.
If an Ace or King comes out, you can C-bet the flop, if Villain plays back, then you may need to re-evaluate, depending on the condition of the board.
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3 3 3 I'm only half evil.
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dev
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Originally Posted by mrhappy333
Let me explain, First I woulda raised preflop to a little more. maybe 1.50, Then you need to put your Villain on a range. I would call the reraise, as he is in the CO, This is a good spot for someone to reraise. Since I put the villain on a range of hands, when the flop comes out you will be have a Plan as to how you are playing your hand.
If an Ace or King comes out, you can C-bet the flop, if Villain plays back, then you may need to re-evaluate, depending on the condition of the board.
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My anger management counselor would advise me not to comment on this.
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Muzzard
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Originally Posted by mrhappy333
I would call the reraise, as he is in the CO, This is a good spot for someone to reraise.
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This villain raises 1% of hands over a sample of 100, this is quite clearly going to be QQ+ or AK. It's probably a good fold. I probably do call and see a flop but I'm check folding anything but a Q.
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fold/call are both fine. when i decide to call his preflop 3 bet, i might call one street bet on undercard flop also. Fold to his double barrel if any.
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Pelion
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id call and sethunt. I think its close though. check/fold if the flop comes 852
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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mrhappy333
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Originally Posted by dev
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Originally Posted by mrhappy333
Let me explain, First I woulda raised preflop to a little more. maybe 1.50, Then you need to put your Villain on a range. I would call the reraise, as he is in the CO, This is a good spot for someone to reraise. Since I put the villain on a range of hands, when the flop comes out you will be have a Plan as to how you are playing your hand.
If an Ace or King comes out, you can C-bet the flop, if Villain plays back, then you may need to re-evaluate, depending on the condition of the board.
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My anger management counselor would advise me not to comment on this. |
this was supposed to be back to back with my first post, I didnt read your second post till after.
sorry
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redflea13
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Yeah, Your nuts.
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daven
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his range is AA/KK.
Either call and set-hunt or fold. Stack sizes suggest it's a close call, either is fine.
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Fnord
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A short buy who played 24 hands, raised 1 out of 100 and open limped you want to fold Queens against? This is at least a call.
Don't fold good hands to people who have a bizare approach to poker unless you understand them better than the information given. If they can't put together a reasonable pre-flop approach, then god knows what he could have here.
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dev
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I think you misunderstood the hand, Fnord.
The 3-better is behind me in the CO. The CO and I are both deep.
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You have to call and sethunt only.
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dev
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Originally Posted by jimmy44
You have to call and sethunt only.
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And if he doesn't stack off with AA or KK on a Q-high board?
With this size sample set, I know he is tight pre, but I haven't seen him on the flop very much.
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Fnord
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Tight raiser, value raise, he has position. Yeah, I'd fold here.
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