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Old 11-08-2004, 11:05 PM     Post subject: Am I just not good enough for this game? #1 (permalink)  
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I did I play bad? Did they play bad? Or I just really suck?
I am down over $600 with KK this month.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ willneverwinagainguy (9 handed)

MP2 ($97)
MP3 ($65.8)
CO ($97)
Button ($97)
SB ($81.1)
willneverwinagainguy ($103)
UTG ($57.4)
UTG+1 ($142.2)
MP1 ($148.25)

Preflop: willneverwinagainguy is BB with K, K. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 raises to $7, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $7, CO folds, Button folds, SB (poster) folds, willneverwinagainguy raises to $20, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $13, MP3 calls $13.

Flop: ($63) 5, J, 5 (3 players)
willneverwinagainguy calls $83 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $122.20 (All-In).

Turn: ($268.20) 8 (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($268.20) 8 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $268.20
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Old 11-08-2004, 11:09 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Oh juust in case your wondering other guys JJ (full house) 55 (four of a Kind)
I think I am going to quit poker and stick to golf I know I can take worse players money at that. Luck is much less of a factor there more skill is involved.
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Old 11-08-2004, 11:11 PM #3 (permalink)  
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willneverwinagainguy: I hope I'm not out of line saying this, but reading your posts lately, I would really, really suggest that you take a short break from poker. There's no way that all this bad luck isn't affecting your play in some way, and I can just see it keeping on badly unless you step back and de-tilt.
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Old 11-08-2004, 11:21 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Ok, ok. I have a few questions. Are you playing with the same people over and over again? Also. It seems like you push on the flop anytime you have an overpair which isn't a bad move. But do you ever get calls by dominated hand? I think you need to start playing big pockets for 3BB and feel out the other players. Try getting reads and putting opponents on two cards before you lunge headfirst with your big pair. Don't make it a push fest every flop. Next time you push with kings put him on two cards, figure out if you want a call and weither or not you're likely to get a call. It seems to me like you raise big with your big hands and pay anyone off who flops something wicked (which will happen once or twice in a 3 hr session) so you'll either win 12 bucks from preflop blinds and action or lose 100+ when they hit it big.

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Old 11-08-2004, 11:30 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I am not playing with the same people over and over again, I could start doing less of a raise but the problem is I get callers, espacially in this hand I didnt want any ace rag to call, instead I get a 55 and JJ to call a big reraise, if I bet less here they are going to call for sure. I have a standard raising range between 31/2bb and 41/2bb and I try to mix it so they dont have an idea which actually hand I have. Im seeing 13% of flops for the month and down over $1000 because of hands just like this. The reason I push here was I was out of position to a two flush board, and I had shown big aggression on the flop, I dont see how I could get away from this one, unless I could put the big LAgg on JJ, which would have been a possibility.
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Old 11-09-2004, 02:24 AM #6 (permalink)  
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scgolfer reading your posts just depressess me, you have to take a brake from poker, at least a month, those BIG bad beats can turn any one down, so just stop playing for some time, take some time off, and just relax, you dont play bad you just have a very bad luck, KK usually doesnt get beaten by JJ, and least of all by 55


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Old 11-09-2004, 03:26 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Its getting quite comical now, exactly 50% with KK 26 times 13 wins, mostly all small wins absolutely ridiculous.
Heres the latest

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ KK SUCKS ASS (10 handed)

CO ($74.45)
Button ($34)
SB ($127.7)
KK SUCKS ASS ($52.6)
UTG ($26.5)
UTG+1 ($48)
UTG+2 ($37.05)
MP1 ($81.3)
MP2 ($249.55)
MP3 ($66.52)

Preflop: KK SUCKS ASS is BB with K, K. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls $1, SB (poster) raises to $3.5, KK SUCKS ASS raises to $9, Button calls $33 (All-In), SB calls $123.70 (All-In), KK SUCKS ASS calls $42.60 (All-In).

Flop: ($214.30) A, Q, 8 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: ($214.30) Q (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($214.30) 8 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $214.30

Results in white below:
SB has Kh Ks (two pair, kings and queens).
KK SUCKS ASS has Kd Kc (two pair, kings and queens).
Button has Ad Jc (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: Button wins $102. SB wins $93.20. KK SUCKS ASS wins $17.60.
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Old 11-09-2004, 02:53 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 I feel odd trying to give YOU advice....you do not suck, and you are not a bad player, you simply seem to be in the "panic" place. You feel like you can't win no matter what hand you have (to be fair you have taken some spectacular beats lately) and you go and overbet a good hand to be "sure" you can WIN.

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I could start doing less of a raise but the problem is I get callers, espacially in this hand I didnt want any ace rag to call
Do you really not want any callers with K-K? A 4-5BB raise preflop is typically enough to get rid of A-rag at the level you are playing at. A-K, A-Ks & A-Qs is the only real threat. If you push preflop you probably gonna get called by A-K anyway and if an Ace flops you have to room left to maneuver. I can't tell from the hand history if you pushed after the flop or if you called AI after the flop - anyway you know how to play, I won't presume to coach you. From an outsider's perspective though...you seem to be playing very desperately...it seems like it is time to take at least a week off. Play golf - read a book (non poker related) and simply clear your head. Poker is not going anywhere, you can alway try to make back what your down in a couple weeks when the pain of these losses has diminished. I have developed a lot of respect for you and many people here at FTR in the last few months...but sometimes you need to listen to people who are not emotionally involved in your problem - My advice is: time for a break.
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