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Old 05-01-2006, 08:12 PM     Post subject: This always worries me... #1 (permalink)  
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$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, May 01, 16:08:14 ET 2006
Table Army Of One (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 5: tesla3605 ( $114.83 )
Seat 10: Bomber_Gerd ( $400.23 )
Seat 4: WildBobAK ( $222.35 )
Seat 3: Niner395 ( $177.33 )
Seat 2: mylove421 ( $347 )
Seat 1: dollar_poker ( $64.99 )
Seat 7: noezway ( $89.70 )
Seat 9: mgajash ( $186.05 )
Seat 8: Freechill ( $196 )
tesla3605 posts small blind [$1].
noezway posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to WildBobAK [ Ks Kh ]
>You have options at My Chepita Table!.
Freechill folds.
mgajash calls [$2].
Bomber_Gerd folds.
dollar_poker folds.
mylove421 folds.
Niner395 calls [$2].
WildBobAK raises [$10].
tesla3605 folds.
noezway folds.
mgajash calls [$8].
>You have options at Sun 'N Fun (No DP) Table!.
Niner395 calls [$8].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 3s, 2s ]
>You have options at My Chepita Table!.
Doctor_7dk has joined the table.
mgajash bets [$30].
Niner395 calls [$30].
WildBobAK ?
 
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Old 05-01-2006, 08:21 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Yuck. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say the first bettor has 88-1010 and the second guy hit a set. Dunno. Would it be awful to just fold here?

Then again, you're getting 3-1 with a strong overpair and backdoor flush draw. Maybe just call, hope to peel off a K or spade, and see what they do?

Yuck.
 
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Old 05-01-2006, 08:29 PM #3 (permalink)  
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call, folding is definitely weak, raising is bad because it commits you and you dont need to do that with position. im raising a bet-call on the turn and folding to a bet-huge raise
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Old 05-01-2006, 08:39 PM #4 (permalink)  
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This is a tough one. On one hand I would be more worried about the call than the initial bet to the flop as he could be trying to steal this pot figuring you for two overs.

I wouldn't be suprised to see that mgajash has a holding like 9's, 10's or J's and Niner395 has Ax of Spades.

Do you have a read on either player as that would help greatly with the decision process.

I don't like the call option though. What are you going to do if a spade hits the turn and either player puts in another pot sized bet or pushes? I think I would either raise or fold here with the decision being read dependent.
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Old 05-01-2006, 09:00 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I like a call here the best. Folding is pretty weak. Raising seems like it would just build the pot and make your hand harder to get away from later on. If either has 2-pair or better you will definitely get more action after you raise. If they have a weaker hand they'll probably just fold to a raise, unless either likes to chase draws for horribly bad odds. I think you should just call and re-evaluate on turn.
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Old 05-01-2006, 09:15 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Does folding seem weak just b/c he has KK ? I don't know. What other hands besides PP call PF and then call a 5xBB raise? Then smooth call a pot-sized flop bet? If he doesn't have a set, he's sure doing a good job of repping it.
 
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:23 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by samsonite2100
Does folding seem weak just b/c he has KK ? I don't know. What other hands besides PP call PF and then call a 5xBB raise? Then smooth call a pot-sized flop bet? If he doesn't have a set, he's sure doing a good job of repping it.
44,55,66,88,99,tt,jj,qq,AJs,ATs, 45s,56s,78s, 89s, T9s, JTs, QJs, KQs (i know you said besides PP, but i see no reason to remove them because it adds a hell of a lot of possible holdings
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:46 PM #8 (permalink)  
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i have a request - SAMSONITE _ PLEASE CHANGE YOUR CHARACTER....It's making me sick to see that crusty bag -

Bob, I would guess flush draw or set - My move is usually to re-raise, but I play with the Fishies at 25NL -
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