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daven

03-09-2010, 03:42 AM Post subject: AKs multiway confusion on KQQ 50nl

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I was pretty lost at a few points during this hand.
My image is pretty tight at this table, the regs may have notes that i've made some silly calls in the past....

first caller is meh winning reg 16-11-2 with high (ca. 80%) fold to c-bet and little imagination, second caller (=flop micro-bettor) is unknown super loose passive station 40-0 and 20% fold to cbet type of player, button is 54-12 aggro who will bet draws (small sample, only real read), sb is 20-5 passive folding fish.

This flop strikes me as way ahead/way behind and i don't think a cbet accomplishes much, maybe I'm wrong though? Flop looks like a call > check-raise, considering turn bet-fold but checked instead, river seems easy value bet-fold, but how big? or is it check-call to induce, thing is, i don't think most of these players are gonna be betting worse very often

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saw flop

MP2 ($50)
MP3 ($48.95)
CO ($61.30)
Button ($69.15)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($49.50)
UTG ($44)
UTG+1 ($50)
Hero (MP1) ($63.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A

, K

2 folds, Hero bets $1.75, MP2 calls $1.75, MP3 calls $1.75, 1 fold, Button calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($9.25) Q

, K

, Q

(5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets $1.50, Button calls $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50

Turn: ($15.25) 4

(4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Button checks

River: ($15.25) 8

(4 players)
Hero bets ?

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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rpm

03-09-2010, 05:20 AM

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i would typically bet/fold something like 10 or 11 for value hoping to get looked up by KT,KJ and perhaps some JJ/TT/99 because the flop and turn played out weird. i think that anyone who is going to play a draw aggressively (you mentioned there was at least one villain who likes to) would probably have done so on a previous street. also i can't see you getting bluffraised here because your range is pretty strong, and you could easily have taken the line you did with a Q because you were so OOP multiway (perhaps looking to check/raise turn). because the hand is particularly multiway, i think that will discourage most villains from betting bricked draws.

badgers

03-09-2010, 10:23 PM

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The flop is most definitely not wa/wb. Look at all those draws! I kinda don't mind a check though depending on how aggressively you expect the other players at the table to play a draw since you have to fold to a raise. I think you can bet or check on the flop sometimes.

River I think you need to lead out for value. You have the best hand a ton and I don't think anyone's going to bet bluff a missed draw into 3 players. That doesn't mean I think you're going to get called a huge amount, but I think a bet of ~$8-10 is best. Don't think we can really rep a Q though since we would def either bet or c/r flop with AQ here, so we are perhaps a little vulnerable to a bluff raise but I wouldn't expect this to be a problem vs these players.

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