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renegaderob1
Old 10-18-2005, 06:48 AM     Post subject: AKs hand... #1 (permalink)  
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No great read on opp. but he was relatively tight.

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$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, October 18, 01:34:57 EDT 2005
Table Table 69285 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: visaya7 ( $31.25 )
Seat 2: Mondavi85 ( $33.55 )
Seat 4: Rohbau1 ( $125.23 )
Seat 8: Stud555 ( $46.65 )
Seat 9: mgl01110101 ( $86.95 )
Seat 10: WishinWell ( $38.75 )
Seat 5: renegaderob1 ( $47.25 )
Seat 6: jhart17 ( $49.45 )
Seat 3: jws21ut ( $10 )
mgl01110101 posts small blind [$0.25].
WishinWell posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to renegaderob1 [ Kc Ac ]
visaya7 calls [$0.50].
Mondavi85 raises [$2].
Rohbau1 calls [$2].
renegaderob1 raises [$4].
jhart17 folds.
Stud555 folds.
mgl01110101 folds.
WishinWell folds.
visaya7 folds.
Mondavi85 calls [$2].
Rohbau1 calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, As, Qh ]
Mondavi85 checks.
Rohbau1 checks.
renegaderob1 bets [$9].
Mondavi85 folds.
Rohbau1 calls [$9].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
Rohbau1 checks.
???

Results and thoughts in white:

renegaderob1 bets [$20].
Rohbau1 raises [$40].
renegaderob1 is all-In [$14.25]
** Dealing River ** [ 2d ]
Rohbau1 shows [ Kd, Jd ] a straight, ten to ace.
renegaderob1 doesn't show [ Kc, Ac ] a pair of aces.
Rohbau1 wins $5.75 from side pot #1 with a straight, ten to ace.
Rohbau1 wins $96.75 from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.

Ok, so I get a check after a smooth call; probably should have set off more alarm bells. My $20 bet was into a $26 pot, so I thought this would be strong enough to take the pot right there if he really didn't like his hand. When he check/raised I knew I was probably fucked but for $14 is this an easy fold?
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:11 AM     Post subject: Re: AKs hand... #2 (permalink)  

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Originally Posted by renegaderob1
When he check/raised I knew I was probably fucked but for $14 is this an easy fold?
it should be, if you were a disciplined player.

not to say i wouldn't make the call myself, of course. there must've been hundreds of times when i told myself, "i know i'm beaten, but i have to call here to just make sure"-- it's having the psychological toughness to trust your instincts & make a laydown that'll save you chips and/or money that differentiates the good from the merely competent...

right now, i'd have to say i'm neither of the above
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:31 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I would have made it $7 to go pre flop if i was going to reraise. The minraise doesn't put your opps to the question.

When fishy minraises a solid turn bet, they can almost always beat TPTK. It feels like you are committed by the $20 turn bet, but you opp wont be expecting you to fold here. It's tough though as you are getting huge odds on your call.

I might have been swayed by the results, but maybe I would check the turn behind. Anyone hate this? Weak/tight? I just don't know what I'm beating on this board...

Easy to say all this though, cos I know he had the straight
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:15 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I would have made it $7 to go pre flop if i was going to reraise. The minraise doesn't put your opps to the question.
Good point, didn't even realise I'd minraised when I first reread my HH...
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:29 AM #5 (permalink)  
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That's a horrible board for Ace King.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:00 AM #6 (permalink)  
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That's a horrible board for Ace King.
this was my first thought, before i looked at the results. you gotta gotta check behind on the turn, you really don't want to be playing for stacks here. if you check behind he probably makes a 10ish river value bet you can call, or he pushes and you easily fold.
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Old 10-18-2005, 01:35 PM #7 (permalink)  
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this was my first thought, before i looked at the results. you gotta gotta check behind on the turn, you really don't want to be playing for stacks here. if you check behind he probably makes a 10ish river value bet you can call, or he pushes and you easily fold.
I agree. Yes it is weak/tight and you are giving a free card, but I don't want to put myself in a (pot-committed) position to lose my whole stack with TPTK. If you check behind, he may assume you are weak and comes out firing or he has it. Now your real decision is does he have it or is he betting my weakness? But you have the advantage of determining whether or not you should call off more of your money by his river bet amount?

Greedo017 beat me to it, but it's great advice.
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