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mxiu
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07-21-2009, 04:11 AM
Post subject: AKo facing aggression from tighty IP
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Villain is 8/6 over 130 hands no reads
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
CO ($208.95)
Button ($86.35)
SB ($200)
BB ($264)
UTG ($208.20)
Hero (UTG+1) ($200)
MP1 ($115)
MP2 ($242.85)
MP3 ($215)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K , A
1 fold, Hero bets $8, 3 folds, CO calls $8, 2 folds, BB calls $6
Flop: ($25) 2 , A , J (3 players)
BB bets $20, Hero calls $20, 1 fold
Turn: ($65) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $40, Hero calls $40
River: ($145) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $196 (All-In), Hero? ($132)
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GOD
I think you need to fold but it's so gay
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 24.659% 09.66% 15.00% 85 132.00 { AsKh }
Hand 1: 75.341% 60.34% 15.00% 531 132.00 { JJ, 22, AKs, AJs, QhJh, Th9h, AKo, AJo }
This was calculated for the turn and feels somewhat optimistic given a player this tight likely isn't calling a SC like QJ/T9 oop here (I guess).
I don't think I'd fold the flop...but it looks like we should on the turn
Thoughts?
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standard then fold
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fold turn.
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Originally Posted by jessyj
fold turn.
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mcatdog
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Fold flop, yeah I went there.
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mxiu
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Originally Posted by mcatdog
Fold flop, yeah I went there.
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fold pre mirite
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Originally Posted by mcatdog
Fold flop, yeah I went there.
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The more I thought about this the more I liked it.
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Originally Posted by Bbickes
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Originally Posted by mcatdog
Fold flop, yeah I went there.
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The more I thought about this the more I liked it.
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Same here.. 8/6 just really isn't leading anything we beat. He has JJ/22 like always.
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Originally Posted by mcatdog
Fold flop, yeah I went there.
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oh no you didn't
I probably fold turn like 60% of the time or so and river 90ish%
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mxiu
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problem with folding flop is that even though i run 16/13'ish, there are tables where i run 5/3 over 100 hands. i dont think 180 hands is really a fair assessment
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fold turn imo but folding flop is interesting and may be correct with a larger sample
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hopeful
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I think raise flop then shut down if called.
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Micro2Macro
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Originally Posted by mxiu
problem with folding flop is that even though i run 16/13'ish, there are tables where i run 5/3 over 100 hands. i dont think 180 hands is really a fair assessment
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+1
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Originally Posted by hopeful
I think raise flop then shut down if called.
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Not intending to be offensive here, but what is with tournament players and 'raising for information'? I'm assuming this is what you mean, and I don't see any reason to.
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his line suggests he has you beaten. Sets are clearly in his range but i think people under-estimate AJ here - playing it fast on a board you likely hit?
id certainly call flop - im not in mcats school of folding outright on flop but i can see its merits but i think turn is 100% fold.
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Yeah I agree that flop fold can correct with this betsizing, however there is no way I fold this in play given the sample size. I think he will check everything we beat or tie(draws/ ak/aq although clearly he very rarely has a draw) so it's quite easy to play the turn. It is a really interesting idea though, and may be correct...
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i change my mind
call flop fold turn
yay i learnded
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