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gametight
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08-20-2008, 02:56 AM
Post subject: AK soooted hand 200nl
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Villain is 22/13/2 with a relatively high 3 bet percent. Spewwww?
Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
MP1: $262.75
MP2: $143.15
CO: $127.80
BTN: $394.65
SB: $200
BB: $244.05
Hero (UTG): $205
UTG+1: $227.60
Pre-Flop: K A dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, CO calls $8, BTN raises to $24, 2 folds, Hero calls $16, CO folds
Flop: ($59) 7 K J (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $25, Hero calls $25
Turn: ($109) 5 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $80, Hero raises to $156 and is All-In, BTN calls $76
River: ($421) 4 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
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Palantine
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Is this a bluff or do you think you're ahead of his range?
If it's a bluff, how often/what hands do you think he folds to your smallish push. If it's a value bet, what range do you put him on?
I'm a noob, is there more fluidity to bluffing/value betting? Can we be bluffing out part of his range while value betting another part? Does this make any sense?
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BankItDrew
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After the turn bet, I put villain on:
AA
KK
JJ
AQ (ace of clubs and/or both)
AcKx
Looks like we have zero FE and the only weaker hands that may call a shove are AQ(one club)/KxQc
Ergo, I see no value in raising TPTK here.
Fold>Call>Raise
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Deanglow
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I like getting it in preflop against this guy with him squeezing.
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BankItDrew
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
I like getting it in preflop against this guy with him squeezing.
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My first thought was opting for a 4bet as well. This looks like a standard squeeze + we're oop + our AK is sooted.
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with this flop you're either winning a small pot or losing a large one
why check/call the flop?
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badgers
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agree with dean
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Miffed22001
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
I like getting it in preflop against this guy with him squeezing.
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+1
or else folding pre to the squeeze against the right player
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gametight
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thnx guys... If I had more history I would have 4 bet/shove but I wanted to see a flop first.
If I call and get this flop, I probly just need to get it in there me thinks.
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Fnord
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I donk-shove the turn or just stick-it-in on the flop.
If I flat here, my plan is to pick off a c-bet and send a message.
I usually just re-raise or fold though.
Don't discount just folding pre-flop. It's a small mistake at worst. I think you need to challenge yourself to make good decisions here instead of just LoLSHOVE. Others disagree.
Bascially, I'm never folding top pair in a pot with an SPR under 5. If I don't think I'll want to felt top pair, I'll make my mistake on a cheap street.
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