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Im_new
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02-13-2009, 05:45 PM
Post subject: AK river call?
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Full House
Join Date: Sep 2007
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I'm gettin butt fucked with no lube yet again. What are you doing on this river?
Villian is a complete nit... 6/3, but only 27 hands played
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (Button) ($35.55)
SB ($25)
BB ($25)
UTG ($27.25)
UTG+1 ($25.35)
MP1 ($25.20)
MP2 ($29.95)
MP3 ($33.20)
CO ($5.30)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K , A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, 4 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $2.50
Flop: ($7.35) J , 5, 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $5.20, UTG+1 calls $5.20
Turn: ($17.75) 9 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks
River: ($17.75) A (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $11.25, Hero feels like shit.
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Deanglow
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very easy call preflop
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Im_new
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Full House
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BUMP....
is the answer that obvious?
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"Gotta run well eventually."
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Stacks
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
very easy call preflop
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Im_new
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Full House
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yea, you're right. but as played....?
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"Gotta run well eventually."
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Mr Bigcity
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yeeeeesss
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mediumhand
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fold.
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Im_new
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Full House
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can some of the bigger guys weigh in on this? Renton and friends?
I'm trying to learn how to determine which hands to put into players ranges on the river, while taking in consideration their main stats. If I was only 5 or 6 tabling, this would be simple because I've learned to pick up on a pleyer's betting patterns and I generally exploit them well. But I'm adding more tables and betting patterns are becoming less obvious. Meaning situations like these become more marginal.
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"Gotta run well eventually."
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mediumhand
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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i'm not goin gto talk for renton&friends(whoever that is .....) but:
1. u have no stats (27 hands)...u only know he does preflop hand selection... he is basically 6/5-13/11 or something...but he is tight
2. u dont beat anything in his value range... that ace doesnt change anything there--he just missed his turn cr or made aces up (with maybe rare exception of AQ but nit would fold that on flop whilst loose fish wouldnt and u'd call here in that case...no need to think he is bluffing hat ace if he is so tight...).... thats his value range.... theres pretty much nothing he is bluffing there with oop as the hand went... so theres shitloads which beat u and pretty much niothing u beat.... if he is reg its even easier here... just my opinion...
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cow344
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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when your flop bet was called it told the story there! A K suited are just 2 cards and if no connection on flop no need to die with them.
Need connection to carry on. I see 2 str8 possible with a flush and more that you were going against! But $5.20 bet and called is the real scare after flop.
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ATOTHEC101
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Full House
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fold, the hands this guy calls with on the flop that then make a healthy donk bet on river crush ak, if he had worse he'd just check or make a far smaller river lead.
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"This sure beats Super Mario Bros.!" is my ejaculation catch phrase.
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TAGurit
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you shouldve bet the turn.
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Im_new
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Full House
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by mediumhand
i'm not goin gto talk for renton&friends(whoever that is .....) but:
1. u have no stats (27 hands)...u only know he does preflop hand selection... he is basically 6/5-13/11 or something...but he is tight
2. u dont beat anything in his value range... that ace doesnt change anything there--he just missed his turn cr or made aces up (with maybe rare exception of AQ but nit would fold that on flop whilst loose fish wouldnt and u'd call here in that case...no need to think he is bluffing hat ace if he is so tight...).... thats his value range.... theres pretty much nothing he is bluffing there with oop as the hand went... so theres shitloads which beat u and pretty much niothing u beat.... if he is reg its even easier here... just my opinion...
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great explanation. Thanks 
btw, I was alread tilting when I got to this hand, so i called. He showed JJ.
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Renton
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Straight Flush
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call pre check flop call river
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frreshprince
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foldddddddddd
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And i yelled to the cabby YO HOLMES SMELL YA LATER
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Fnord
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Call this please.
CHOP CHOP
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Itsgoodonwood83
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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I hate AK-47's they always get u sucked in a losing hand. It's rare they win unless u go all in pre-flop.
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Deanglow
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Originally Posted by Itsgoodonwood83
I hate AK-47's they always get u sucked in a losing hand. It's rare they win unless u go all in pre-flop.
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Actually, AK has always been one of my winningest hands. Who would have thunk
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